My setup: LAN A | |-- Wireless-r1 --| |-- Wireless-r2 --| ..................| .................LAN B LAN A is my primary (external) LAN. LAN B is my wireless LAN. LAN A does iBGP and OSPF routing. Each wireless router does the following: 2 Bridged Ethernet + STP connections to LAN A 2 Bridged Ethernet + STP connections to LAN B 2 VLANs on LAN A 5 VLANs on LAN B UCARP on each wireless VLAN (5). Quagga - zebra, bgpd, ospfd (on LAN A) UCARP provides a virtual IP address for the gateway for each VLAN on the wireless side. The goal is to provide complete, hot-failover redundancy to wireless-r2 in the event wireless-r1 goes down (maintenance, failure, etc). Ideally, the system should not loose a single packet in the event of a failure. UCARP can accomplish this (already tested). If traffic is being routed from the Internet to the wireless side by going through wireless-r2, there is no issue with bringing down the interfaces on the wireless side of wireless-r1 -- traffic reroutes accordingly with no packet loss. If the traffic is being routed through wireless-r1 by default, we loose (at most) 2 packets, but sometimes none, when we bring down the ethernet connectivity on the wireless side of wireless-r1. My real issue comes in with the fact that sometimes, OSPF chooses wireless-r2 as the default route from the Internet to the customer and UCARP uses wireless-r1 for the reverse direction. The iptables rules and bandwidth shaping rules ruly on connection tracking and marking to limit bandwidth and do statistics and things. Since half of each flow is going through the other router, things do not get handled entirely correctly. Also, in certain circumstances, it is possible to get the wireless bridged interfaces to stop passing traffic while not triggering a route down message through OSPF, which basically causes the traffic to come to a dead stop as OSPF thinks the route still exists, but UCARP does not. UCARP fails over in this instance, but not the routing. So, my real question in all of this is how do I get UCARP and Quagga to talk to each other and update each other on their state. Essentially, I would like to get UCARP to turn off actual routing (but not route updates) through the machine if UCARP is in slave mode. Also, when UCARP goes to master mode, it should turn the routing back on. I think I can accomplish this much by modifying my vip-up and vip-down shell scripts to change the metric on the route so that the slave metric is higher than the master metric. Unfortunately, going the other way is much more difficult. How in the world do I get Quagga to put UCARP in slave mode if the OSPF routing goes down, and then put UCARP in master mode when OSPF comes back up? I've seen times when Quagga looses its OSPF neighbors and needs ospfd to be restarted. When something like this happens, UCARP should go into slave mode and the backup router should kick in. I'm not sure how to pull this off short of a cronjob, which seems like a hack, and probably won't react fast enough to prevent an outage. Anyone have any suggestions on solving these issues? PS. I'm also going to try the Quagga and UCARP lists, but I thought I would pose this question here, too, since it is for advanced routing and traffic control, which is precisely what I'm trying to do. Thanks in advance. Eliot Gable Certified Wireless Network Administrator (CWNA) Certified Wireless Security Professional (CWSP) Cisco Certified Network Associate (CCNA) CompTIA Security+ Certified CompTIA Network+ Certified Network and System Engineer Great Lakes Internet, Inc. 112 North Howard Croswell, MI 48422 (810) 679-3395 (877) 558-8324 Now offering Broadband Wireless Internet access in Croswell, Lexington, Brown City, Yale, Worth Township, and Sandusky. Call for details. _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list LARTC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.ds9a.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lartc