Hello, i have a htb setup where the root and (nearly) all child classes has a ceil rate with max up from my adsl line. But the root class don't reach the ceil value but some childs are get a huge backlog. My setup: (tc -d class show dev ppp0) [cleaned a bit] ******************************************************** class htb 1:1 root rate 576000bit ceil 576000bit burst 30Kb/8 cburst 1739b/8 overhead 14b level 7 class htb 1:10 parent 1:1 leaf 100: prio 0 quantum 7500 rate 58000bit ceil 115000bit burst 1480b/8 cburst 1508b/8 overhead 14b level 0 class htb 1:20 parent 1:1 leaf 200: prio 1 quantum 256 rate 282000bit ceil 576000bit burst 396b/2 cburst 543b/2 overhead 14b level 0 class htb 1:30 parent 1:1 leaf 300: prio 2 quantum 9000 rate 117000bit ceil 576000bit burst 1509b/8 cburst 1739b/8 overhead 14b level 0 class htb 1:40 parent 1:1 leaf 400: prio 3 quantum 9000 rate 58000bit ceil 576000bit burst 1480b/8 cburst 1739b/8 overhead 14b level 0 class htb 1:50 parent 1:1 leaf 500: prio 7 quantum 2000 rate 20000bit ceil 576000bit burst 1461b/8 cburst 1739b/8 overhead 14b level 0 class htb 1:60 parent 1:1 leaf 600: prio 7 quantum 3000 rate 23000bit ceil 576000bit burst 1462b/8 cburst 1739b/8 overhead 14b level 0 class htb 1:70 parent 1:1 leaf 700: prio 7 quantum 1000 rate 14000bit ceil 576000bit burst 1458b/8 cburst 1739b/8 overhead 14b level 0 ******************************************************** Now the classes 1:50 - 1:70 are often get much backlog, but the root-class 1:1 don't reach the ceil rate. statistic looks like: ******************************************************** tc -s -d class show dev ppp0 class htb 1:1 root rate 576000bit ceil 576000bit burst 30Kb/8 mpu 0b overhead 0b cburst 1739b/8 mpu 0b overhead 14b level 7 Sent 1485575598 bytes 3140554 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0) rate 480008bit 115pps lended: 1904616 borrowed: 0 giants: 0 tokens: 385702 ctokens: -26458 class htb 1:10 parent 1:1 leaf 100: prio 0 quantum 7500 rate 58000bit ceil 115000bit burst 1480b/8 mpu 0b overhead 0b cburst 1508b/8 mpu 0b overhead 14b level 0 Sent 1186471 bytes 15097 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0) rate 152bit lended: 15097 borrowed: 0 giants: 0 tokens: 194207 ctokens: 99943 class htb 1:20 parent 1:1 leaf 200: prio 1 quantum 256 rate 282000bit ceil 576000bit burst 396b/2 mpu 0b overhead 0b cburst 543b/2 mpu 0b overhead 14b level 0 Sent 39131574 bytes 884694 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0) rate 13296bit 39pps lended: 884643 borrowed: 51 giants: 0 tokens: 8453 ctokens: 6229 class htb 1:30 parent 1:1 leaf 300: prio 2 quantum 9000 rate 117000bit ceil 576000bit burst 1509b/8 mpu 0b overhead 0b cburst 1739b/8 mpu 0b overhead 14b level 0 Sent 1027775 bytes 5392 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0) rate 112bit lended: 5332 borrowed: 60 giants: 0 tokens: 61194 ctokens: 15701 class htb 1:40 parent 1:1 leaf 400: prio 3 quantum 9000 rate 58000bit ceil 576000bit burst 1480b/8 mpu 0b overhead 0b cburst 1739b/8 mpu 0b overhead 14b level 0 Sent 370952 bytes 750 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0) lended: 617 borrowed: 133 giants: 0 tokens: 172179 ctokens: 21731 class htb 1:50 parent 1:1 leaf 500: prio 7 quantum 2000 rate 20000bit ceil 576000bit burst 1461b/8 mpu 0b overhead 0b cburst 1739b/8 mpu 0b overhead 14b level 0 Sent 249243996 bytes 608136 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0) rate 88512bit 22pps lended: 133117 borrowed: 475019 giants: 0 tokens: -439382 ctokens: 5148 class htb 1:60 parent 1:1 leaf 600: prio 7 quantum 3000 rate 23000bit ceil 576000bit burst 1462b/8 mpu 0b overhead 0b cburst 1739b/8 mpu 0b overhead 14b level 0 Sent 831028684 bytes 1288890 pkts (dropped 62, overlimits 0) rate 278224bit 42pps backlog 38p lended: 154838 borrowed: 1134014 giants: 0 tokens: -65884 ctokens: -21987 class htb 1:70 parent 1:1 leaf 700: prio 7 quantum 1000 rate 14000bit ceil 576000bit burst 1458b/8 mpu 0b overhead 0b cburst 1739b/8 mpu 0b overhead 14b level 0 Sent 363652940 bytes 337633 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0) rate 100144bit 11pps lended: 42294 borrowed: 295339 giants: 0 tokens: -421519 ctokens: 2886 ******************************************************** Why the ceil rate can't be reached? rate 480008bit from 576000bit a little bit to huge difference. And besides this i'm using the overhead patch from Jesper Dangaard Brouer (iproute+htb) which takes the ATM+AAL5+SSCS Overhead into account. Can a slightly inaccurate clock has something todo with this? Another question: why "tc show class" prints the overhead and mpu value twice? And why is the first overhead value = 0? -- Markus Schulz _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list LARTC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.ds9a.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lartc