I have an objection too: VoIP (Voice over IP), video and audio streaming are "elephants". They are big flows, yet people don't like movies played as picture slideshows and interrupted audio or phone calls. End of objection. Trying to build a solution: Making the hipothesis. I think "intrractive traffic" shoud be defined and recognized not by it's packet size nor by duration of the connection nor by ports it comes or goes. We do not have a "computerized" definition of "interactive traffic", so we cannot separate it from "bulk traffic". We know that "interractive traffic" = traffic that should have such priority that the user can interract with the network without being annoyed by network latency. "Bulk traffic" = traffic that the user don't care if is delayed for a few seconds, but has to take place and finnish in resonable time. The conclusions: 1. Now that the definitions are given, how can we sepparate the two, living no chance for programmers to "cheat" the algorithm? Or maybe we can trust them and ask them for help and set for interractive applications' traffic some bits that the routers can recognize and build some queues accordingly. 2. How many classes do we need and what applications could be into each of them? Waiting for some ideas... __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list LARTC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.ds9a.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lartc