On Sunday 09 December 2001 22.41, jamal wrote: > Look at the definition of work vs non-work conserving; This is design > intent. If you look at the datapath, it is totaly meaningless to put > queues at ingress, for routing when they are being queued on ingress as > well. (on egress as well I assume...) True, but not all applications of shaping have the luxury of egress. For example, consider the not too uncommon example of a computer connected via 100Mbps networking to a DSL modem, and you want to tune the use of the link without needing to introduce a router inbetween. > The implementation/extension is trivial. There is no need for it; I went > at great lengths with Martin/devik on this Maybe he can help me here ;-> So do you have any argument why one should not be able to shape incoming local traffic to a station in a good manner without having a router do the shaping? hh Regards Henrik