I figure that, in the ideal situation, bandwidth throttling would occur on a drop-by-drop basis. (That's the only way I can see to do it that can't be abused, like the TOS fields can, to bring it back to that discussion. ;-)) In that ideal situation, what I plan to do (and, just to un-fluff the feathers of sys-admins everywhere, at a not--continually-maximal bandiwdth utilization) is to "reclaim" (read: fully utilize) any bandwidth wasted by one person not fully using theirs, just as space is wasted if you have two partitions with a filing system in each, which can't share files, rather than a single partition, or two filing systems which can combine their unused space. And by the sharing of services (not bandwidth; services) amongst different rooms, a greater amount of idleness is maintained on each, so peaks are taken care of handily, and usage is balanced over the entire network. (In the *truly* ideal scenario, all users of the entire network across campus, across a state, in the world, ad infinitum, would share the same logical bandwidth with no waste. The "real" world is a subset, or an approximation, of the ideal world.) On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Gerry Creager wrote: > "John Anthony Kazos Jr." wrote: > > > > Of course it does! :P In our dormitory rooms each person is intended to > > use one 10-Base-T port, but we're going to run a box that connects to both > > and balances the traffic across both. We're also going to set up similar > > boxes in our friends' rooms, and balance the *services* between them. > > We're going to squeeze out every ounce of bandwidth we can. > > > > It's going to be fun, to say the least. :-) > > Arrrrrggggggghhhhhhh! Folks like you make bandwidth throlling by folks > like me a necessity, to preserve what we have for the other campus > users. We have seen P2P activities drive us to 80+ percent utilization > at times, with Napster-likes being the bulk thereof. We've had servers > and RPGs cause similar load problems, especially when we have a truly > talented designer/developer pop up. > > This isn't a tirade against the students, more a plea. We're seeing > bandwidth demand accellerate beyond our (as network managers') ability > to increase supply. Part of this is that bandwidth isn't free... nor > even cheap... and we have to live on budgets based on what we > anticipated 18 or so months ago, and the management above us in the food > chain subsequently cut. If we guessed wrong in either direction, our > credibility was screwed and we can't get an increase next year... > > Think about it. This is a cool _ONE_TIME_ experiment, but if it ramps > up, expect your name in the student newspaper as one of the reasons the > bandwidth for your dorm was cut to 56kbps. > > TTFN, gerry >