On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 04:20:24PM +0200, Clemens Sibon wrote: > Hi there, > > I was just thinking.. When I limit my incoming bandwidth to keep the bills > low (no flat-rate) but the only thing the system does is drop packets, then > I do have to pay for this traffic since it gets dropped on my side. It does Yes. But, as the HOWTO explains, TCP/IP responds to lost packets by slowing down. If people just stream you lots of packets, you do need to pay. > however reduce the amount of outgoing traffic, but are there ways to let > 'the other side' know that I can't handle their traffic instead of just > dropping it? I know Cisco (and others?) have some things like RED and > others.. RED, ICMP Source Quench, ECN all don't do what you want I'm afraid. Simple per hop networks just don't work like that. You need to shape upstream to be really sure. Regards, bert hubert -- PowerDNS Versatile DNS Services Trilab The Technology People 'SYN! .. SYN|ACK! .. ACK!' - the mating call of the internet