Stef, Am I overlooking something obvious? I'd suggest that Tomas throttles his bandwidth on transmit to the internal network. It is a router, so very little traffic will be initiated from the router itself. Why not perform traffic control on packets transmitted to the Internet on the outward facing NIC. Then perform traffic control on packets received from the Internet on the inward facing NIC. What's wrong with this? -Martin : > well, if tcp throttles down at the point where packets are dropped is of : > course good, but still, when a download is peaking at the maximum speed : > minus a couple kbits, the delay is terrible, that's what i want to change. : > any idea? : You can give the download 98% of the link so there is always 2% available for : something else. It also helps to throttle down _all_ incoming bandwidth to : 99% of your link so _you_ are shaping and not your router. : : Stef : : > > > it is a 2mbit fiber stub network which looks pretty much like this: : > > > : > > > lan - router - fw - isp - internet : > > > : > > > the egress qos is at the moment at the router which pretty much says : > > > "prioritize interactive sessions". -- Martin A. Brown --- SecurePipe, Inc. --- mabrown@securepipe.com