First, it is impossible for there to be LENDED without BORROWED. (And proper English would be LOANED not LENDED.) Second, where is a (console, not X; we do not run X on our servers!!) utility to determine what is happening so that one can set WonderShaper's UPLINK and DOWNLINK and see immediately the effects? In other words, "how can I impress my friends if I can't even show them that this works?" -- if it really does. Third and last, where is 'man tc'? (Aside: It looks like this is not wrapping correctly even though I'm set up to wrap at 72. If so, I'll find a way to fix it. Meanwhile, please accept my apology.) gypsy _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/