I will be out of the office from 8/19 until 8/23. I will be returning on Monday afternoon, 8/26, and will reply then. Thank you, Michael Pellegrino Softerware, Inc. ___________________________________________________________________________ Subject: LARTC digest, Vol 1 #722 - 3 msgs From: lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl Date: 08/18/02 01:27:42 Send LARTC mailing list submissions to lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to lartc-request@mailman.ds9a.nl You can reach the person managing the list at lartc-admin@mailman.ds9a.nl When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of LARTC digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: LARTC digest, Vol 1 #721 - 6 msgs (mikep02@softerware.com) 2. Re: HTB3 port for 2.2.18? (Julian Anastasov) 3. Another sharing tehnique, is this possible ? (raptor@unacs.bg) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 00:32:12 -0400 To: lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl From: mikep02@softerware.com Reply-To: mikep02@softerware.com Subject: Re: LARTC digest, Vol 1 #721 - 6 msgs I will be out of the office from 8/19 until 8/23. I will be returning on Monday afternoon, 8/26, and will reply then. Thank you, Michael Pellegrino Softerware, Inc. ___________________________________________________________________________ Subject: LARTC digest, Vol 1 #721 - 6 msgs From: lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl Date: 08/17/02 01:27:51 Send LARTC mailing list submissions to lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to lartc-request@mailman.ds9a.nl You can reach the person managing the list at lartc-admin@mailman.ds9a.nl When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of LARTC digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Advance Routing Guidance (Arindam Haldar) 2. Re: HTB is in 2.4.20pre1,2 (Jason Tackaberry) 3. HTB3 port for 2.2.18? (Amit Kucheria) 4. HTB equivalent for 'bounded' and 'isolated' in CBQ (Amit Kucheria) 5. Implementation details of sch (Pedro Larroy) 6. Re: Implementation details of sch (Werner Almesberger) -- __--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 20:26:24 +0530 From: Arindam Haldar <arindamhaldar@inbox.lv> To: Julian Anastasov <ja@ssi.bg> Cc: LARTC <lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl> Subject: Re: Advance Routing Guidance hi julian hi all thanx to you all.. many doubts are now cleared.. the **NATing** soulution is ofcource a very steady one but am not able to convince my management for it !.. hopefully they will... ys julian you r right :).. there were white spaces--it's patched perfectly now .. :) .. to you all---> have a :) sunday.. :) A.H Julian Anastasov wrote: > Hello, > > On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Arindam Haldar wrote: > > >>after going thru the docs i find that with julians patch one needs to >>**MASQUERADE** to the links... we dont want that !.. we want our real ip >>to flow in these 2 links(real ip already being broadcasted on provider's >>network).. >>so my Question is-->possible without **MASQUERADE** ??.. will the >>setup(as shown in docs) loadbalance for our real ip's ?? .. > > > Of course, it is possible ... and depends on how restrictive > are your providers. But if one link fails you can have the problem > of using sources for the failed link, then the replies from world > will hit the failed provider and will not reach you. As result, > your internal servers should know which source addresses to use > according to the link state. The masquerade simply guarantees that > one link is used only from addresses that are reachable from this > link. > > >>what other things i have to consider ?.. > > > As for applying the patches you need to download them > correctly. More likely you have white space problem (try with > patch -l). > > >>Awaiting a reply very very anxiously.. >>A.H > > > Regards > > -- > Julian Anastasov <ja@ssi.bg> > > > -- __--__-- Message: 2 Subject: Re: HTB is in 2.4.20pre1,2 From: Jason Tackaberry <tack@auc.ca> To: Alexey Talikov <alexey_talikov@texlab.com.uz> Cc: devik <devik@cdi.cz>, lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl Date: 16 Aug 2002 14:43:54 -0400 On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 01:46, Alexey Talikov wrote: > I think in many cases HTB is more simple, power and beautiful > than CBQ. Not only that, but it _works_, which is pretty important for me. :) I'm very happy to see it included into the main kernel. Best, Jason. -- Academic Computing Support Specialist Algoma University College Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario 705-949-2301 x330 Personal Home Page http://www.auc.ca http://sault.org -- __--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 15:54:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Amit Kucheria <amitk@ittc.ku.edu> To: lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl Subject: HTB3 port for 2.2.18? Hi all, Is there an HTB3 port for 2.2.18? Is HTB2 patch on devik's site accurate enough in 2.2.18? Regards, Amit -- I'm an angel!!! Honest! The horns are just there to hold the halo up straight. ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^ Amit Kucheria EECS Grad. Research Assistant University of Kansas @ Lawrence (R): +1-785-830-8521 ||| (C): +1-785-760-2871 ____________________________________________________ -- __--__-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:09:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Amit Kucheria <amitk@ittc.ku.edu> To: lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl Subject: HTB equivalent for 'bounded' and 'isolated' in CBQ Hi all, Sally Floyd's Link sharing paper defines the following: 1. Bounded class: class that is not allowed to borrow from ancestor classes, regardless of the limit status of those classes. 2. Isolated class: class that does not allow non-descendant classes to borrow its unused bandwidth and that does not borrow bandwidth from other classes in turn How does HTB implement a 'bounded class'? I seem to see no constructs to be able to do this. The 'ceil' parameter allows us to implement a part of the 'isolated' definition above. By setting it equal to 'rate', the class does not borrow bandwidth, but what will stop other classes from borrowing its unused bandwidth? Regards, Amit -- I'm an angel!!! Honest! The horns are just there to hold the halo up straight. ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^ Amit Kucheria EECS Grad. Research Assistant University of Kansas @ Lawrence (R): +1-785-830-8521 ||| (C): +1-785-760-2871 ____________________________________________________ -- __--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 00:38:50 +0200 To: lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl From: Pedro Larroy <piotr@omega.resa.es> Subject: Implementation details of sch Hi I'm trying to understand the sch implementation in the linux kernel. Is there some documentation out there that may be helpful to me? Regards. -- ... ___________________________________________________________ ... | /| |\ | | /-| Pedro Larroy Tovar. PiotR | http://omega.resa.es/piotr |-\ | | /--| No MS-Office attachments please. |--\ | o-|--| e-mail: piotr@omega.resa.es |--|-o | \-| finger piotr@omega.resa.es for public key and info |-/ | |...\|_________________________________________________________|/...| -- __--__-- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 21:59:14 -0300 From: Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net> To: piotr@outpost.ds9a.nl, lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl Subject: Re: Implementation details of sch Pedro Larroy wrote: > I'm trying to understand the sch implementation in the linux kernel. Is > there some documentation out there that may be helpful to me? ftp://icaftp.epfl.ch/pub/people/almesber/pub/tcio-current.ps.gz and, more recent, but not quite finished: ftp://icaftp.epfl.ch/pub/people/almesber/junk/tc-04FEB2001-0.tar.gz - Werner -- _________________________________________________________________________ / Werner Almesberger, Buenos Aires, Argentina wa@almesberger.net / /_http://icapeople.epfl.ch/almesber/_____________________________________/ -- __--__-- _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc End of LARTC Digest --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 12:25:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Julian Anastasov <ja@ssi.bg> To: Amit Kucheria <amitk@ittc.ku.edu> Cc: lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl Subject: Re: HTB3 port for 2.2.18? Hello, On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Amit Kucheria wrote: > Is there an HTB3 port for 2.2.18? Yes, I have backported the net/sched from 2.4.20pre1 to 2.2.21, including HTB3. The simple tests look good, the problem is that I still have problems updating/accessing my site. I can provide my "DS-9" tree to anyone interested in testing and hosting the files. > Regards, > Amit Regards -- Julian Anastasov <ja@ssi.bg> --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 16:14:11 +0300 From: raptor@unacs.bg To: lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl Subject: Another sharing tehnique, is this possible ? hi, (assume HTB) I was thinking will it be possible to do some sort of UNFAIR-SHARING :"), what I have in mind : Say I have a internet link with 100kbits bandwith, then I want to share it between many clients (which will increase over time). Let's i start with 5 clients with rate = 30kbits... See the total bandwith of users is 120kbits but I have only 100kbits.... So where is the problem I want to describe their bandwith like total 100kbits |__ user1 => rate 30kbits, ceil 30kbits |__ user2 => rate 30kbits, ceil 30kbits |__ user3 => rate 30kbits, ceil 30kbits |__ ..................... |__ userX => rate 30kbits, ceil 30kbits U can say why I just don't calculate 100/5 = 20 and set for all users "rate 20kbits, ceil 30kbits", 'cause i will add more users in the future and will need to calculate again and again this value... also some of them may want 30kbits other 10kbits etc.... (it is ok for them to get lower rates 'cause the speed is ungaranteed the user are not online 24hours a day and of course when bandwith got used to the max it will upgraded to better speed).. In fact what I want to say is : the max rate should be X but if the link is overused u will get lower speed ...?? One way this to be done is if I use something like this : rate 0 ceil desired-speed but is this possible, or if not what is the lowest possible value.... - Will proirity have be taken into account so that i can say some should be served better than other ? - the lower possible bandwith i will lend is 9600bps .. yes we have such speeds the price here is big :"( Thanx alot raptor --__--__-- _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc End of LARTC Digest _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
