On 27/05/13 21:01, Christoffer Dall wrote: > On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> At the moment, when mapping a device into Stage-2 for a guest, >> we override whatever the guest uses by forcing a device memory >> type in Stage-2. >> >> While this is not exactly wrong, this isn't really the "spirit" of >> the architecture. The hardware shouldn't have to cope for a broken >> guest mapping to a device as normal memory. >> > > So I'm trying to think of a scenario where this feature in the > architecture would actually be useful, and it sounds like from you > guys that it's only useful to properly run a broken guest. > > Are we 100% sure that a malicious guest can't leverage this to break > isolation? I'm thinking something along the lines of writing to a > device (for example the gic virtual cpu interface) with a cached > mapping. If such a write is in fact written back to cache, and not > evicted from the cache before a later time, where a different VM is > running, can't that adversely affect the other VM? > > Probably this can never happen, but I wasn't able to convince myself > of this from going through the ARM ARM...? I think you definitely have a point here, and I completely missed that case. A shared device (like the GIC virtual CPU interface) must be forced to a device memory type, otherwise we cannot ensure strict isolation of guests. I'll drop this patch from my series and add PAGE_S2_DEVICE back to the arm64 port. Thanks, M. -- Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny... -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html