RE: [PATCH v9 2/3] x86, apicv: add virtual x2apic support

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Gleb Natapov wrote on 2013-01-12:
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 07:36:44AM +0000, Zhang, Yang Z wrote:
>> Gleb Natapov wrote on 2013-01-10:
>>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:22:51PM +0000, Zhang, Yang Z wrote:
>>>> Gleb Natapov wrote on 2013-01-10:
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:54:21AM +0000, Zhang, Yang Z wrote:
>>>>>>>> The right logic should be:
>>>>>>>> When register virtualization enabled, read all apic msr(except apic id
> reg
>>> and
>>>>>>> tmcct which have the hook) not cause vmexit and only write TPR not
>>>>>>> cause vmexit.
>>>>>>>> When vid enabled, write to TPR, EOI and SELF IPI not cause vmexit.
>>>>>>>> It's better to put the patch of envirtualize x2apic mode as first patch.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There is no point whatsoever to enable virtualize x2apic without
>>>>>>> allowing at least one non intercepted access to x2apic MSR range and
>>>>>>> this is what your patch is doing when run on cpu without vid capability.
>>>>>> No, at least read/write TPR will not cause vmexit if virtualize x2apic mode
> is
>>>>> enabled.
>>>>> For that you need to disable 808H MSR intercept, which your patch does
> not
>>> do.
>>>> I want to do this in next patch.
>>>> 
>>> Then don't. There is no point in the patch that enables virtualize
>>> x2apic and does not allow at least one non-intercepted MSR access.
>> As I said, read/write TPR will not cause vmexit if virtual x2apic is set.
>> 
> From my reading of the spec you need to disable 808H intercept for that.
> Is this not the case?
After thinking, since Linux doesn't use TPR, there is no point to do this. No real guest will benefit from this.

>>>>>> I am not sure whether I understand your comments right in previous
>>>>>> discussion, here is my thinking: 1. enable virtualize x2apic mode if
>>>>>> guest is really using x2apic and clear TPR in msr read  and write
>>>>>> bitmap. This will benefit reading TPR. 2. If APIC registers
>>>>>> virtualization is enabled, clear all bit in rang
>>>>> 0x800-0x8ff(except apic id reg and tmcct).
>>>>> Clear all read bits in the range.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 3. If vid is enabled, clear EOI and SELF IPI in msr write map.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Looks OK.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> One concern you mentioned is that vid enabled and virtualize x2apic is
>>> disabled
>>>>> but guest still use x2apic. In this case, we still use MSR bitmap to
>>>>> intercept x2apic. This means the vEOI update will never happen. But we
>>>>> still can benefit from interrupt window.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> What interrupt windows? Without virtualized x2apic TPR/EOI
>>>>> virtualization will not happen and we rely on that in the code.
>>>> Yes, but we can eliminate vmexit of interrupt window. Interrupt still can
>>> delivery to guest without vmexit when guest enables interrupt if vid
>>> is enabled. See SDM vol 3, 29.2.2.
>>>> 
>>> What does it matter that you eliminated vmexit of interrupt window if
>>> you broke everything else? The vid patch assumes that apic emulation
>>> either entirely happens in a software when vid is disabled or in a CPU
>>> if vid is enabled. Mixed mode will not work (apic->isr_count = 1 trick
>>> will break things for instance). And it is not worth it to complicate
>>> the code to make it work.
>> Yes, you are right. It too complicated.
>> Another question? Why not to hide x2apic capability to guest when vid is
> supported and virtual x2apic mode is not supported? It should be more
> reasonable than disable vid when virtual x2apic mode is unavailable.
>> 
> Because I think there will be no such HW. If such HW expected to be
> common then we can go this route.
> 
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Best regards,
Yang


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