On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:22:27AM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote: > On 2012-01-20 11:14, Marcelo Tosatti wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 07:01:44PM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote: > >> On 2012-01-19 18:53, Marcelo Tosatti wrote: > >>>> What problems does it cause, and in which scenarios? Can't they be > >>>> fixed? > >>> > >>> If the guest compensates for lost ticks, and KVM reinjects them, guest > >>> time advances faster then it should, to the extent where NTP fails to > >>> correct it. This is the case with RHEL4. > >>> > >>> But for example v2.4 kernel (or Windows with non-acpi HAL) do not > >>> compensate. In that case you want KVM to reinject. > >>> > >>> I don't know of any other way to fix this. > >> > >> OK, i see. The old unsolved problem of guessing what is being executed. > >> > >> Then the next question is how and where to control this. Conceptually, > >> there should rather be a global switch say "compensate for lost ticks of > >> periodic timers: yes/no" - instead of a per-timer knob. Didn't we > >> discussed something like this before? > > > > I don't see the advantage of a global control versus per device > > control (in fact it lowers flexibility). > > Usability. Users should not have to care about individual tick-based > clocks. They care about "my OS requires lost ticks compensation, yes or no". FYI, at the libvirt level we model policy against individual timers, for example: <clock offset="localtime"> <timer name="rtc" tickpolicy="catchup" track="guest"/> <timer name="pit" tickpolicy="delay"/> </clock> Daniel -- |: http://berrange.com -o- http://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange/ :| |: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.org :| |: http://autobuild.org -o- http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :| |: http://entangle-photo.org -o- http://live.gnome.org/gtk-vnc :| -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html