* Alexander Graf <agraf@xxxxxxx> wrote: > [...] > > Outside of the kernel tree, you can do your own decisions. If > someone thinks it's a great idea to write device emulation in > python (I would love that!), he could go in and implement it > without having to worry about Linus possibly rejecting it because > it's out of scope for a "Linux kernel testing tool". If you want to > create the greatest GUI for virtualization the world has ever seen, > you can just do it! Nothing holds you back. We actually recently added Python bindings to event tracing in perf: earth5:~/tip> find tools/perf/ -name '*.py' tools/perf/python/twatch.py tools/perf/util/setup.py tools/perf/scripts/python/Perf-Trace-Util/lib/Perf/Trace/Util.py tools/perf/scripts/python/Perf-Trace-Util/lib/Perf/Trace/Core.py tools/perf/scripts/python/Perf-Trace-Util/lib/Perf/Trace/SchedGui.py tools/perf/scripts/python/syscall-counts.py tools/perf/scripts/python/sctop.py tools/perf/scripts/python/sched-migration.py tools/perf/scripts/python/check-perf-trace.py tools/perf/scripts/python/futex-contention.py tools/perf/scripts/python/failed-syscalls-by-pid.py tools/perf/scripts/python/net_dropmonitor.py tools/perf/scripts/python/syscall-counts-by-pid.py tools/perf/scripts/python/netdev-times.py ... and Linus did not object (so far ;-) - nor does he IMHO have many reasons to object as long as the code is sane and useful. Nor did Linus object when perf extended its scope from profiling to tracing, system monitoring, etc. While i don't talk for Linus, the only 'hard boundary' that Linus enforces and expects all maintainers to enforce that i'm aware of is "don't do crazy crap". Everything else is possible as long as it's high quality and reasonable, with a good upside story that is relevant to the kernel - you can let your imagination run wild, there's no artificial barriers that i'm aware of. Anyway, i have outlined the rough consequences of a user-space project being inside the kernel repo in this post: http://lkml.org/lkml/2011/11/10/86 ... and they are definitely not trivial and easy to meet. Thanks, Ingo -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html