On Thursday 06 October 2011, 13:40:01 Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote: > On 10/06/2011 07:04 AM, Stephan Diestelhorst wrote: > > On Wednesday 28 September 2011, 14:49:56 Linus Torvalds wrote: > >> Which certainly should *work*, but from a conceptual standpoint, isn't > >> it just *much* nicer to say "we actually know *exactly* what the upper > >> bits were". > > Well, we really do NOT want atomicity here. What we really rather want > > is sequentiality: free the lock, make the update visible, and THEN > > check if someone has gone sleeping on it. > > > > Atomicity only conveniently enforces that the three do not happen in a > > different order (with the store becoming visible after the checking > > load). > > > > This does not have to be atomic, since spurious wakeups are not a > > problem, in particular not with the FIFO-ness of ticket locks. > > > > For that the fence, additional atomic etc. would be IMHO much cleaner > > than the crazy overflow logic. > > All things being equal I'd prefer lock-xadd just because its easier to > analyze the concurrency for, crazy overflow tests or no. But if > add+mfence turned out to be a performance win, then that would obviously > tip the scales. > > However, it looks like locked xadd is also has better performance: on > my Sandybridge laptop (2 cores, 4 threads), the add+mfence is 20% slower > than locked xadd, so that pretty much settles it unless you think > there'd be a dramatic difference on an AMD system. Indeed, the fences are usually slower than locked RMWs, in particular, if you do not need to add an instruction. I originally missed that amazing stunt the GCC pulled off with replacing the branch with carry flag magic. It seems that two twisted minds have found each other here :) One of my concerns was adding a branch in here... so that is settled, and if everybody else feels like this is easier to reason about... go ahead :) (I'll keep my itch to myself then.) Stephan -- Stephan Diestelhorst, AMD Operating System Research Center stephan.diestelhorst@xxxxxxx, Tel. +49 (0)351 448 356 719 Advanced Micro Devices GmbH Einsteinring 24 85609 Aschheim Germany Geschaeftsfuehrer: Alberto Bozzo; Sitz: Dornach, Gemeinde Aschheim, Landkreis Muenchen Registergericht Muenchen, HRB Nr. 43632, WEEE-Reg-Nr: DE 12919551 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html