Re: [PATCH] kvm tools, ui: Optimize SDL updates

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On 04.06.2011, at 12:42, Ingo Molnar wrote:

> 
> * Alexander Graf <agraf@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> I wrote up 2 virtio-fb implementations a while back and I still 
>> believe it's a bad idea. Better implement QXL in kvm-tool, so work 
>> doesn't get needlessly duplicated. If you really have to use virtio 
>> for whatever reason (no PCI available), just write a small QXL over 
>> virtio transport that allows you to reuse the protocol.
>> 
>> I really don't want to see people waste time on reinventing the 
>> wheel over and over again.
> 
> Oh, we are just ignorantly blundering around trying to find a good 
> solution! :-)
> 
> We are not trying to reimplement the wheel (at all), if you check we 
> started with VNC GUI support which is as far from NIH as it gets! :-)
> 
> I didn't know about QXL but it looks interesting at first sight: a 
> virtual GPU seen by the guest OS with Xorg support for it in the 
> guest Xorg. But i do not see guest kernel framebuffer support for it 
> - how does that aspect work, if one boots without Xorg, etc.?

IIUC it implements VESA and just goes through the respective fb. I would love to see a QXL fb implementation though. I'd also love to see QXL working on !PCI, so we can potentially use it on s390x and ppc-hv which can't easily do MMIO.

So instead of putting effort into writing virtio-fb host and guest sides, why not implement QXL-fb against a working target (qemu) and then implement the QXL host side against a working target (working guest support)? That probably makes the development process a lot easier.


Alex

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