On Sat, 2024-11-30 at 16:31 +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 12:07:18PM -0800, Josh Poimboeuf wrote: > > eIBRS protects against RSB underflow/poisoning attacks. Adding > > retpoline to the mix doesn't change that. Retpoline has a balanced > > CALL/RET anyway. > > This is exactly why I've been wanting for us to document our > mitigations for > a long time now. FWIW, I'd say we have fairly decent documentation with commit messages + code + comments in code. > A bunch of statements above for which I can only rhyme up they're > correct if > I search for the vendor docs. On the AMD side I've found: [...] > In any case, I'd like for us to do have a piece of text accompanying > such > patches, perhaps here: > > Documentation/admin-guide/hw-vuln/spectre.rst > > which quotes the vendor docs. If you're saying that we need *additional* documentation that replicates hw manuals and the knowledge we have in our commit + code + comments, that I agree with. I got the feeling earlier, though, that you were saying we need that documentation *instead of* the current comments-within-code, and that didn't sound like the right thing to do. > The current thread(s) on the matter already show how much confused we > all are > by all the possible mitigation options, uarch speculative dances etc > etc. ... and the code flows and looks much better after this commit (for SpectreRSB at least), which is a huge plus. It's important to note that at some point in the past we got vulnerabilities and hw features/quirks one after the other, and we kept tacking mitigation code on top of the existing one -- because that's what you need to do during an embargo period. Now's the moment when we're consolidating it all while taking stock of the overall situation. This looks like a sound way to go about taking a higher-level view and simplifying the code. I doubt we'd want to do things any other way; and much less doing this kind of an exercise during an embargo. Moving comments out of the code will only add to frustration during embargo periods. Just my 2c Amit