On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, Christian Borntraeger wrote: > > > Am 15.01.24 um 17:01 schrieb Yi Wang: > > Many thanks for your such kind and detailed reply, Sean! > > > > On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 12:28 AM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > +other KVM maintainers > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, Yi Wang wrote: > > > > From: Yi Wang <foxywang@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > We found that it may cost more than 20 milliseconds very accidentally > > > > to enable cap of KVM_CAP_SPLIT_IRQCHIP on a host which has many vms > > > > already. > > > > > > > > The reason is that when vmm(qemu/CloudHypervisor) invokes > > > > KVM_CAP_SPLIT_IRQCHIP kvm will call synchronize_srcu_expedited() and > > > > might_sleep and kworker of srcu may cost some delay during this period. > > > > > > might_sleep() yielding is not justification for changing KVM. That's more or > > > less saying "my task got preempted and took longer to run". Well, yeah. > > > > Agree. But I suppose it may be one of the reasons that makes time of > > KVM_CAP_SPLIT_IRQCHIP delayed, of course, the kworker has the biggest > > suspicion :) > > > > > > > > > Since this happens during creating vm, it's no need to synchronize srcu > > > > now 'cause everything is not ready(vcpu/irqfd) and none uses irq_srcu now. > > > > .... > > > > > And on x86, I'm pretty sure as of commit 654f1f13ea56 ("kvm: Check irqchip mode > > > before assign irqfd"), which added kvm_arch_irqfd_allowed(), it's impossible for > > > kvm_irq_map_gsi() to encounter a NULL irq_routing _on x86_. > > > > > > But I strongly suspect other architectures can reach kvm_irq_map_gsi() with a > > > NULL irq_routing, e.g. RISC-V dynamically configures its interrupt controller, > > > yet doesn't implement kvm_arch_intc_initialized(). > > > > > > So instead of special casing x86, what if we instead have KVM setup an empty > > > IRQ routing table during kvm_create_vm(), and then avoid this mess entirely? > > > That way x86 and s390 no longer need to set empty/dummy routing when creating > > > an IRQCHIP, and the worst case scenario of userspace misusing an ioctl() is no > > > longer a NULL pointer deref. > > Sounds like a good idea. This should also speedup guest creation on s390 since > it would avoid one syncronize_irq. > > > > To setup an empty IRQ routing table during kvm_create_vm() sounds a good idea, > > at this time vCPU have not been created and kvm->lock is held so skipping > > synchronization is safe here. > > > > However, there is one drawback, if vmm wants to emulate irqchip itself, > > e.g. qemu with command line '-machine kernel-irqchip=off' may not need > > irqchip in kernel. How do we handle this issue? > > I would be fine with wasted memory. +1. If we really, really want to avoid the negligible memory overhead, we could pre-configure a static global table and directly use that as the dummy table (and exempt it from being freed by free_irq_routing_table()). > The only question is does it have a functional impact or can we simply ignore > the dummy routing. Given the lack of sanity checks on kvm->irq_routing, I'm pretty sure the only way for there to be functional impact is if there's a latent NULL pointer deref hiding somewhere.