Many thanks for your such kind and detailed reply, Sean! On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 12:28 AM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > +other KVM maintainers > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, Yi Wang wrote: > > From: Yi Wang <foxywang@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > We found that it may cost more than 20 milliseconds very accidentally > > to enable cap of KVM_CAP_SPLIT_IRQCHIP on a host which has many vms > > already. > > > > The reason is that when vmm(qemu/CloudHypervisor) invokes > > KVM_CAP_SPLIT_IRQCHIP kvm will call synchronize_srcu_expedited() and > > might_sleep and kworker of srcu may cost some delay during this period. > > might_sleep() yielding is not justification for changing KVM. That's more or > less saying "my task got preempted and took longer to run". Well, yeah. Agree. But I suppose it may be one of the reasons that makes time of KVM_CAP_SPLIT_IRQCHIP delayed, of course, the kworker has the biggest suspicion :) > > > Since this happens during creating vm, it's no need to synchronize srcu > > now 'cause everything is not ready(vcpu/irqfd) and none uses irq_srcu now. .... > And on x86, I'm pretty sure as of commit 654f1f13ea56 ("kvm: Check irqchip mode > before assign irqfd"), which added kvm_arch_irqfd_allowed(), it's impossible for > kvm_irq_map_gsi() to encounter a NULL irq_routing _on x86_. > > But I strongly suspect other architectures can reach kvm_irq_map_gsi() with a > NULL irq_routing, e.g. RISC-V dynamically configures its interrupt controller, > yet doesn't implement kvm_arch_intc_initialized(). > > So instead of special casing x86, what if we instead have KVM setup an empty > IRQ routing table during kvm_create_vm(), and then avoid this mess entirely? > That way x86 and s390 no longer need to set empty/dummy routing when creating > an IRQCHIP, and the worst case scenario of userspace misusing an ioctl() is no > longer a NULL pointer deref. To setup an empty IRQ routing table during kvm_create_vm() sounds a good idea, at this time vCPU have not been created and kvm->lock is held so skipping synchronization is safe here. However, there is one drawback, if vmm wants to emulate irqchip itself, e.g. qemu with command line '-machine kernel-irqchip=off' may not need irqchip in kernel. How do we handle this issue? --- Best wishes Yi Wang