Re: [PATCH vfio 10/11] vfio/virtio: Expose admin commands over virtio device

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On Thu, Oct 05, 2023 at 08:10:04AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > But for all the augmented vfio use cases it doesn't, for them the
> > augmented vfio functionality is an integral part of the core driver.
> > That is true for nvme, virtio and I'd argue mlx5 as well.
> 
> I don't agree with this. I see the extra functionality as being an
> integral part of the VF and VFIO. The PF driver is only providing a
> proxied communication channel.
> 
> It is a limitation of PCI that the PF must act as a proxy.

For anything live migration it very fundamentally is not, as a function
that is visible to a guest by definition can't drive the migration
itself.  That isn't really a limitation in PCI, but follows form the
fact that something else must control a live migration that is
transparent to the guest.

> 
> > So we need to stop registering separate pci_drivers for this kind
> > of functionality, and instead have an interface to the driver to
> > switch to certain functionalities.
> 
> ?? We must bind something to the VF's pci_driver, what do you imagine
> that is?

The driver that knows this hardware.  In this case the virtio subsystem,
in case of nvme the nvme driver, and in case of mlx5 the mlx5 driver.

> > E.g. for this case there should be no new vfio-virtio device, but
> > instead you should be able to switch the virtio device to an
> > fake-legacy vfio mode.
> 
> Are you aruging about how we reach to vfio_register_XX() and what
> directory the file lives?

No.  That layout logically follows from what codebase the functionality
is part of, though.

> I don't know what "fake-legacy" even means, VFIO is not legacy.

The driver we're talking about in this thread fakes up a virtio_pci
legacy devie to the guest on top of a "modern" virtio_pci device.

> There is alot of code in VFIO and the VMM side to take a VF and turn
> it into a vPCI function. You can't just trivially duplicate VFIO in a
> dozen drivers without creating a giant mess.

I do not advocate for duplicating it.  But the code that calls this
functionality belongs into the driver that deals with the compound
device that we're doing this work for.

> Further, userspace wants consistent ways to operate this stuff. If we
> need a dozen ways to activate VFIO for every kind of driver that is
> not a positive direction.

We don't need a dozen ways.  We just need a single attribute on the
pci (or $OTHERBUS) devide that switches it to vfio mode.



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