Re: [PATCH v4 03/16] KVM: Add KVM_CAP_MEMORY_FAULT_INFO

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On Fri, Aug 11, 2023, Anish Moorthy wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:35 AM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > diff --git a/include/linux/kvm_host.h b/include/linux/kvm_host.h
> > > +inline void kvm_populate_efault_info(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu,
> >
> > Tagging a globally visible, non-static function as "inline" is odd, to say the
> > least.
> 
> I think my eyes glaze over whenever I read the words "translation
> unit" (my brain certainly does) so I'll have to take your word for it.
> IIRC last time I tried to mark this function "static" the compiler
> yelled at me, so removing the "inline" it is.

What is/was the error?  It's probably worth digging into; "static inline" should
work just fine, so there might be something funky elsewhere that you're papering
over.

> > I got a bit (ok, way more than a bit) lost in all of the (A) (B) (C) madness.  I
> > think this what you intended for each case?
> >
> >   (A) if there are any existing paths in KVM_RUN which cause a vCPU
> >       to (1) populate the kvm_run struct then (2) fail a vCPU guest memory
> >       access but ignore the failure and then (3) complete the exit to
> >       userspace set up in (1), then the contents of the kvm_run struct written
> >       in (1) will be corrupted.
> >
> >   (B) if KVM_RUN fails a guest memory access for which the EFAULT is annotated
> >       but does not return the EFAULT to userspace, then later returns an *un*annotated
> >       EFAULT to userspace, then userspace will receive incorrect information.
> >
> >   (C) an annotated EFAULT which is ignored/suppressed followed by one which is
> >       propagated to userspace. Here the exit-reason-unset check will prevent the
> >       second annotation from being written, so userspace sees an annotation with
> >       bad contents, If we believe that case (A) is a weird sequence of events
> >       that shouldn't be happening in the first place, then case (C) seems more
> >       important to ensure correctness in. But I don't know anything about how often
> >       (A) happens in KVM, which is why I want others' opinions.
> 
> Yeah, I got lost in the weeds: you've gotten the important points though
> 
> > (A) does sadly happen.  I wouldn't call it a "pattern" though, it's an unfortunate
> > side effect of deficiencies in KVM's uAPI.
> >
> > (B) is the trickiest to defend against in the kernel, but as I mentioned in earlier
> > versions of this series, userspace needs to guard against a vCPU getting stuck in
> > an infinite fault anyways, so I'm not _that_ concerned with figuring out a way to
> > address this in the kernel.  KVM's documentation should strongly encourage userspace
> > to take action if KVM repeatedly exits with the same info over and over, but beyond
> > that I think anything else is nice to have, not mandatory.
> >
> > (C) should simply not be possible.  (A) is very much a "this shouldn't happen,
> > but it does" case.  KVM provides no meaningful guarantees if (A) does happen, so
> > yes, prioritizing correctness for (C) is far more important.
> >
> > That said, prioritizing (C) doesn't mean we can't also do our best to play nice
> > with (A).  None of the existing exits use anywhere near the exit info union's 256
> > bytes, i.e. there is tons of space to play with.  So rather than put memory_fault
> > in with all the others, what if we split the union in two, and place memory_fault
> > in the high half (doesn't have to literally be half, but you get the idea).  It'd
> > kinda be similar to x86's contributory vs. benign faults; exits that can't be
> > "nested" or "speculative" go in the low half, and things like memory_fault go in
> > the high half.
> >
> > That way, if (A) does occur, the original information will be preserved when KVM
> > fills memory_fault.  And my suggestion to WARN-and-continue limits the problematic
> > scenarios to just fields in the second union, i.e. just memory_fault for now.
> > At the very least, not clobbering would likely make it easier for us to debug when
> > things go sideways.
> >
> > And rather than use kvm_run.exit_reason as the canary, we should carve out a
> > kernel-only, i.e. non-ABI, field from the union.  That would allow setting the
> > canary in common KVM code, which can't be done for kvm_run.exit_reason because
> > some architectures, e.g. s390 (and x86 IIRC), consume the exit_reason early on
> > in KVM_RUN.
> 
> I think this is a good idea :D I was going to suggest something
> similar a while back, but I thought it would be off the table- whoops.
> 
> My one concern is that if/when other features eventually also use the
> "speculative" portion, then they're going to run into the same issues
> as we're trying to avoid here.

I think it's worth the risk.  We could mitigate potential future problems to some
degree by maintaining the last N "speculative" user exits since KVM_RUN, e.g. with
a ring buffer, but (a) that's more than a bit crazy and (b) I don't think the
extra data would be actionable for userspace unless userspace somehow had a priori
knowledge of the "failing" sequence.

> But fixing *that* (probably by propagating these exits through return
> values/the call stack) would be a really big refactor, and C doesn't really
> have the type system for it in the first place :(

Yeah, lack of a clean and easy way to return a tuple makes it all but impossible
to handle this without resorting to evil shenanigans.




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