Re: KVM usability

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On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 03:52:52PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> On 03/02/10 15:37, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 03:22:07PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> >>On 03/02/10 14:37, Nikolai K. Bochev wrote:
> >>>I don't see where this argument is leading to. So far there are
> >>>arguments that qemu/kvm sucks as a desktop virtualization, now
> >>>suddenly the gui tools are shitty and everything should be done cli ,
> >>>because there's no man pages for virt-manager. Explain.
> >>
> >>Lets face it:  virt-manager has a big bunch of problems.  For starters
> >>there is no (gui) way to create a virtual machine other than installing
> >>one from a iso image or via pxe.  So if you downloaded a disk image and
> >>want to boot it ->  no cookie for you.  Likewise if you have a bunch of
> >>already installed guests and want to migrate from $othertool to
> >>virt-manager you can't do that easily.
> >
> >The ability to import existing KVM disk images is available in the
> >latest release of virt-manager, targetted for Fedora 13.
> 
> Glad to hear that.  Are these bits in F12 virt-preview already?

I believe so.

> >Migrating
> >from another tool like VMWare  is a much harder than just importing
> >the disk image, since you have to update the drivers inside the guest,
> >likely reconfigure several config files, etc, etc. There is work on
> >a full v2v tool to automate this task, for both Linux&  Windows guests.
> 
> I meant migrating from another qemu management tool, be it some other 
> gui tool or self-baked shell scripts or something else.

That's pretty much what the 'disk import' could deal with, unless we wanted
to provide a way to read the config files from those other  qemu mgmt tools
directly on a case-by-case basis

Daniel
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