On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 03:52:52PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > On 03/02/10 15:37, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > >On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 03:22:07PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > >>On 03/02/10 14:37, Nikolai K. Bochev wrote: > >>>I don't see where this argument is leading to. So far there are > >>>arguments that qemu/kvm sucks as a desktop virtualization, now > >>>suddenly the gui tools are shitty and everything should be done cli , > >>>because there's no man pages for virt-manager. Explain. > >> > >>Lets face it: virt-manager has a big bunch of problems. For starters > >>there is no (gui) way to create a virtual machine other than installing > >>one from a iso image or via pxe. So if you downloaded a disk image and > >>want to boot it -> no cookie for you. Likewise if you have a bunch of > >>already installed guests and want to migrate from $othertool to > >>virt-manager you can't do that easily. > > > >The ability to import existing KVM disk images is available in the > >latest release of virt-manager, targetted for Fedora 13. > > Glad to hear that. Are these bits in F12 virt-preview already? I believe so. > >Migrating > >from another tool like VMWare is a much harder than just importing > >the disk image, since you have to update the drivers inside the guest, > >likely reconfigure several config files, etc, etc. There is work on > >a full v2v tool to automate this task, for both Linux& Windows guests. > > I meant migrating from another qemu management tool, be it some other > gui tool or self-baked shell scripts or something else. That's pretty much what the 'disk import' could deal with, unless we wanted to provide a way to read the config files from those other qemu mgmt tools directly on a case-by-case basis Daniel -- |: Red Hat, Engineering, London -o- http://people.redhat.com/berrange/ :| |: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.org -o- http://deltacloud.org :| |: http://autobuild.org -o- http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :| |: GnuPG: 7D3B9505 -o- F3C9 553F A1DA 4AC2 5648 23C1 B3DF F742 7D3B 9505 :| -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html