Re: KVM usability

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I don't see where this argument is leading to. So far there are arguments that qemu/kvm sucks as a desktop virtualization, now suddenly the gui tools are shitty and everything should be done cli , because there's no man pages for virt-manager. Explain.

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@xxxxxxx>, Avi Kivity <avi@xxxxxxxxxx>, Yanmin Zhang <yanmin_zhang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ming m lin <ming.m.lin@xxxxxxxxx>, sheng yang <sheng.yang@xxxxxxxxx>, Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@xxxxxxxxxx>, KVM General <kvm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Zachary Amsden <zamsden@xxxxxxxxxx>, Gleb Natapov <gleb@xxxxxxxxxx>, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@xxxxxxxxxx>, Fr??d??ric Weisbecker <fweisbec@xxxxxxxxx>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@xxxxxxxxx>, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Cole Robinson <crobinso@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:11:06 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Re: KVM usability
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 09:14 -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> The real 
> question to ask is, why are you using qemu directly instead of using 
> virt-manager? 
Because I suspect Ingo, like me, is a command line user, launching a gui
to start kvm when there is a kvm command around just sounds daft.
Also, I just installed and tried it, virt-manager is a total piece of
shit, I wouldn't even know how to begin telling it how to start my
freshly baked kernel with serial console on stdio and some block image I
just created from the gentoo stage3 tarball.
That is, after 5 minutes clicking I have no idea how to even launch an
ISO with the thing, I prefer reading the kvm manpage over using some
mouse only gui crap like that.
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