I don't see where this argument is leading to. So far there are arguments that qemu/kvm sucks as a desktop virtualization, now suddenly the gui tools are shitty and everything should be done cli , because there's no man pages for virt-manager. Explain. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@xxxxxxx>, Avi Kivity <avi@xxxxxxxxxx>, Yanmin Zhang <yanmin_zhang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ming m lin <ming.m.lin@xxxxxxxxx>, sheng yang <sheng.yang@xxxxxxxxx>, Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@xxxxxxxxxx>, KVM General <kvm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Zachary Amsden <zamsden@xxxxxxxxxx>, Gleb Natapov <gleb@xxxxxxxxxx>, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@xxxxxxxxxx>, Fr??d??ric Weisbecker <fweisbec@xxxxxxxxx>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@xxxxxxxxx>, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Cole Robinson <crobinso@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:11:06 +0200 (EET) Subject: Re: KVM usability On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 09:14 -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote: > The real > question to ask is, why are you using qemu directly instead of using > virt-manager? Because I suspect Ingo, like me, is a command line user, launching a gui to start kvm when there is a kvm command around just sounds daft. Also, I just installed and tried it, virt-manager is a total piece of shit, I wouldn't even know how to begin telling it how to start my freshly baked kernel with serial console on stdio and some block image I just created from the gentoo stage3 tarball. That is, after 5 minutes clicking I have no idea how to even launch an ISO with the thing, I prefer reading the kvm manpage over using some mouse only gui crap like that. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html