Re: [PATCH qemu-kvm] Add raw(af_packet) network backend to qemu

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On 01/27/2010 11:25 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
  In this case, the full
syntax would be:

-net vepa,if=eth0

or

-net vepa,fd=N
I still hope it's extbridge, vepa is an acronym that will likely not be
known for 99% of users.

Oh sorry, I don't care about the name at all. If you prefer extbridge, I'm all for it :-)

where N is a macvtap fd.

For raw, I think there's a real problem wrt security.  I think it's
important that we support running qemu as a non-privileged user.  In
fact, this seems to be the mode libvirt is now preferring to operate in.

I think we need to re-evaluate the use of any raw socket by qemu as it's
very dangerous from a security perspective (assuming we cannot
introduced a "locked" raw socket mode).
As was pointed out on netdev and elsewhere this seems to be what
namespaces/selinux are there for. Can qemu be run within a namespace and
if yes would that address your concerns?

It's unclear to me what this would even involve. But really, we just want an interface to inject packets directly into a physical device. raw sockets give us that but it also gives us way more. Using network namespaces to restrict this is a bit convoluted. It seems to me that providing an interface that never gives us way more to start with is better overall from a security perspective.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

   Security is probably a wrong
reason to use character devices: they are much more likely to have
security problems than standard interfaces.  Ease of setup/compatibility
with tap would be a better reason.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

Regards,

Anthony Liguori


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