On 4/28/2021 4:38 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 12:58:29PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 7:00 AM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 02:41:53PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 12:56:21AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
I still think this going the wrong way. Why can't we enhance the core
driver code with a version of device_bind_driver() that does call into
->probe? That probably seems like a better model for those existing
direct users of device_bind_driver or device_attach with a pre-set
->drv anyway.
Wouldn't that just be "export device_driver_attach()" so that drivers
can implement their own custom bind implementation?
That looks like it might be all that is needed.
I thought about doing it like that, it is generally a good idea,
however, if I add new API surface to the driver core I really want to
get rid of device_bind_driver(), or at least most of its users.
I might be missing where you are going with this comment, but
device_driver_attach() isn't a drop-in replacement for
device_bind_driver().
Many of the places calling device_bind_driver() are wonky things
like this:
dev->dev.driver = &drv->link.driver;
if (pnp_bus_type.probe(&dev->dev))
goto err_out;
if (device_bind_driver(&dev->dev))
goto err_out;
So device_driver_attach() does replace that - with some differences.
Notable is that bind_driver requires the driver_lock but driver_attach
gets it internally. However, as far as I can tell, none of the
bind_driver callers do get it, so huh.
Aside from the driver_lock there are lots of small subtle differences
that are probably not important unless they are for some very complex
reason. :\
Of the callers:
drivers/input/serio/serio.c
This definitely doesn't have the device_lock
It uses connect instead of probe and for some reason uses its own
mutex instead of the device_lock. Murky.
drivers/input/gameport/gameport.c
This looks alot like serio, same comments
drivers/net/phy/phy_device.c
device_driver_attach() is better, looks unlikely that
device_lock is properly held here. Little unclear on what
the bus is and if bus->probe will be OK
drivers/net/wireless/mac80211_hwsim.c
Definitely does not hold the driver lock, the class and the driver
have NULL probes so this could be changed
drivers/pnp/card.c
device_driver_attach() is better, very unlikely that a random
device pulled from a linked list has the driver_lock held
drivers/usb/core/driver.c
This comment says the caller must have the device lock, but it
doesn't call probe, and when I look at cdc_ether.c I wonder
where the device_lock is hidden? Murky.
Basically, there is some mess here, and eliminating
device_bind_driver() for device_driver_attach() is quite a reasonable
cleanup. But hard, complex enough it needs testing each patch.
The other driver self bind scenario is to directly assign driver
before device_add, but I have a hard time finding those cases in the
tree with grep.
If this export prevented a new device_bind_driver() user, I think
that's a net positive, because device_bind_driver() seems an odd way
to implement bus code to me.
Yes, I looked into why it is like this and concluded it is just very
very old.
I have an ulterior motive / additional use case in mind here which is
the work-in-progress cleanup of the DSA driver. It uses the driver
model to assign an engine to different use cases via driver binding.
However, it currently has a custom bind implementation that does not
operate like a typical /sys/bus/$bus/drivers interface. If
device_driver_attach() was exported then some DSA compat code could
model the current way while also allowing a transition path to the
right way. As is I was telling Dave that the compat code would need to
be built-in because I don't think fixing a DSA device-model problem is
enough justification on its own to ask for a device_driver_attach()
export.
Can you make and test a DSA patch? If we have two concrete things and
I can sketch two more out of the above that should meet Greg's "need 4
things" general thinking for driver core API changes.
Working on it. Having device_driver_attach() exported will definitely
make things easier on my side. Thanks for doing the heavy lifting.
But I still would like to keep this going while we wait for acks, you
know how long that can take...
Jason
