Re: [PATCH] Don't call cpu_synchronize_state() in apic_init_reset()

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On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:15:15AM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:53:59AM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >> On 09/23/2009 06:45 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>>> Functions calling each other in the same subsystem can rely on callers
> >>>> calling cpu_synchronize_state().  Across subsystems, that's another
> >>>> matter, exported functions should try not to rely on implementation
> >>>> details of their callers.
> >>>>
> >>>> (You might argue that the apic is not separate subsystem wrt an x86 cpu,
> >>>> and I'm not sure I have a counterargument)
> >>>>
> >>> I do accept this argument. It's just that my feeling is that we are
> >>> lacking proper review of the required call sites of cpu_sychronize_state
> >>> and rather put it where some regression popped up (and that only in
> >>> qemu-kvm...).
> >> That's life...
> >>
> >>> The new rule is: Synchronize the states before accessing registers (or
> >>> in-kernel devices) the first time after a vmexit to user space.
> >> No, the rule is: synchronize state before accessing registers.
> >> Extra synchronization is cheap, while missing synchronization is
> >> very expensive.
> >>
> > So should we stick cpu_synchronize_state() before each register
> > accesses? I think it is reasonable to omit it if all callers do it
> > already.
> > 
> >>> But,
> >>> e.g., I do not see where we do this on CPU reset.
> >> That's a bug.
> >>
> > Only if kvm support cpus without apic. Otherwise CPU is reset by 
> > apic_reset() and cpu_synchronize_state() is called there.
> 
> No, that's not enough if cpu_reset() first fiddles with some registers
> that may later on be overwritten on cpu_synchronize_state() with the old
> in-kernel state. At least in theory, haven't checked yet what happens in
Can't happen. Call chain is apic_reset() -> cpu_reset() and apic_reset()
calls  cpu_synchronize_state() before calling cpu_reset().

> reality. That's why not synchronizing properly is "expensive" (or broken
> IOW).
> 
> Jan
> 



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