Re: [PATCH v3] docs/virt/kvm: Document configuring and running nested guests

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On 05/05/20 13:28, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote:
> +
> +Live migration with nested KVM
> +------------------------------
> +
> +The below live migration scenarios should work as of Linux kernel 5.3
> +and QEMU 4.2.0 for x86; for s390x, even older versions might work.
> +In all the below cases, L1 exposes ``/dev/kvm`` in it, i.e. the L2 guest
> +is a "KVM-accelerated guest", not a "plain emulated guest" (as done by
> +QEMU's TCG).
> +
> +- Migrating a nested guest (L2) to another L1 guest on the *same* bare
> +  metal host.
> +
> +- Migrating a nested guest (L2) to another L1 guest on a *different*
> +  bare metal host.
> +
> +- Migrating an L1 guest, with an *offline* nested guest in it, to
> +  another bare metal host.
> +
> +- Migrating an L1 guest, with a  *live* nested guest in it, to another
> +  bare metal host.
> +
> +Limitations on Linux kernel versions older than 5.3 (x86)
> +---------------------------------------------------------
> +
> +On Linux kernel versions older than 5.3, once an L1 guest has started an
> +L2 guest, the L1 guest would no longer capable of being migrated, saved,
> +or loaded (refer to QEMU documentation on "save"/"load") until the L2
> +guest shuts down.
> +
> +Attempting to migrate or save-and-load an L1 guest while an L2 guest is
> +running will result in undefined behavior.  You might see a ``kernel
> +BUG!`` entry in ``dmesg``, a kernel 'oops', or an outright kernel panic.
> +Such a migrated or loaded L1 guest can no longer be considered stable or
> +secure, and must be restarted.
> +
> +Migrating an L1 guest merely configured to support nesting, while not
> +actually running L2 guests, is expected to function normally.
> +Live-migrating an L2 guest from one L1 guest to another is also expected
> +to succeed.
> +

This is a bit optimistic, as AMD is not supported yet.  Please review
the following incremental patch:

diff --git a/Documentation/virt/kvm/running-nested-guests.rst b/Documentation/virt/kvm/running-nested-guests.rst
--- a/Documentation/virt/kvm/running-nested-guests.rst
+++ b/Documentation/virt/kvm/running-nested-guests.rst
@@ -182,11 +182,23 @@ Enabling "nested" (s390x)
 Live migration with nested KVM
 ------------------------------
 
-The below live migration scenarios should work as of Linux kernel 5.3
-and QEMU 4.2.0 for x86; for s390x, even older versions might work.
-In all the below cases, L1 exposes ``/dev/kvm`` in it, i.e. the L2 guest
-is a "KVM-accelerated guest", not a "plain emulated guest" (as done by
-QEMU's TCG).
+Migrating an L1 guest, with a  *live* nested guest in it, to another
+bare metal host, works as of Linux kernel 5.3 and QEMU 4.2.0 for
+Intel x86 systems, and even on older versions for s390x.
+
+On AMD systems, once an L1 guest has started an L2 guest, the L1 guest
+should no longer be migrated or saved (refer to QEMU documentation on
+"savevm"/"loadvm") until the L2 guest shuts down.  Attempting to migrate
+or save-and-load an L1 guest while an L2 guest is running will result in
+undefined behavior.  You might see a ``kernel BUG!`` entry in ``dmesg``, a
+kernel 'oops', or an outright kernel panic.  Such a migrated or loaded L1
+guest can no longer be considered stable or secure, and must be restarted.
+Migrating an L1 guest merely configured to support nesting, while not
+actually running L2 guests, is expected to function normally even on AMD
+systems but may fail once guests are started.
+
+Migrating an L2 guest is expected to succeed, so all the following
+scenarios should work even on AMD systems:
 
 - Migrating a nested guest (L2) to another L1 guest on the *same* bare
   metal host.
@@ -194,30 +206,7 @@ QEMU's TCG).
 - Migrating a nested guest (L2) to another L1 guest on a *different*
   bare metal host.
 
-- Migrating an L1 guest, with an *offline* nested guest in it, to
-  another bare metal host.
-
-- Migrating an L1 guest, with a  *live* nested guest in it, to another
-  bare metal host.
-
-Limitations on Linux kernel versions older than 5.3 (x86)
----------------------------------------------------------
-
-On Linux kernel versions older than 5.3, once an L1 guest has started an
-L2 guest, the L1 guest would no longer capable of being migrated, saved,
-or loaded (refer to QEMU documentation on "save"/"load") until the L2
-guest shuts down.
-
-Attempting to migrate or save-and-load an L1 guest while an L2 guest is
-running will result in undefined behavior.  You might see a ``kernel
-BUG!`` entry in ``dmesg``, a kernel 'oops', or an outright kernel panic.
-Such a migrated or loaded L1 guest can no longer be considered stable or
-secure, and must be restarted.
-
-Migrating an L1 guest merely configured to support nesting, while not
-actually running L2 guests, is expected to function normally.
-Live-migrating an L2 guest from one L1 guest to another is also expected
-to succeed.
+- Migrating a nested guest (L2) to a bare metal host.
 
 Reporting bugs from nested setups
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