On 30/07/19 15:35, Anup Patel wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 6:48 PM Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On 30/07/19 14:45, Anup Patel wrote: >>> Here's some text from RISC-V spec regarding SIP CSR: >>> "software interrupt-pending (SSIP) bit in the sip register. A pending >>> supervisor-level software interrupt can be cleared by writing 0 to the SSIP bit >>> in sip. Supervisor-level software interrupts are disabled when the SSIE bit in >>> the sie register is clear." >>> >>> Without RISC-V hypervisor extension, the SIP is essentially a restricted >>> view of MIP CSR. Also as-per above, S-mode SW can only write 0 to SSIP >>> bit in SIP CSR whereas it can only be set by M-mode SW or some HW >>> mechanism (such as S-mode CLINT). >> >> But that's not what the spec says. It just says (just before the >> sentence you quoted): >> >> A supervisor-level software interrupt is triggered on the current >> hart by writing 1 to its supervisor software interrupt-pending (SSIP) >> bit in the sip register. > > Unfortunately, this statement does not state who is allowed to write 1 > in SIP.SSIP bit. If it doesn't state who is allowed to write 1, whoever has access to sip can. > I quoted MIP CSR documentation to highlight the fact that only M-mode > SW can set SSIP bit. > > In fact, I had same understanding as you have regarding SSIP bit > until we had MSIP issue in OpenSBI. > (https://github.com/riscv/opensbi/issues/128) > >> and it's not written anywhere that S-mode SW cannot write 1. In fact >> that text is even under sip, not under mip, so IMO there's no doubt that >> S-mode SW _can_ write 1, and the hypervisor must operate accordingly. > > Without hypervisor support, SIP CSR is nothing but a restricted view of > MIP CSR thats why MIP CSR documentation applies here. But the privileged spec says mip.MSIP is read-only, it cannot be cleared (as in the above OpenSBI issue). So mip.MSIP and sip.SSIP are already different in that respect, and I don't see how the spec says that S-mode SW cannot set sip.SSIP. (As an aside, why would M-mode even bother using sip and not mip to write 1 to SSIP?). > I think this discussion deserves a Github issue on RISC-V ISA manual. Perhaps, but I think it makes more sense this way. The question remains of why M-mode is not allowed to write to MSIP/MEIP/MTIP. My guess is that then MSIP/MEIP/MTIP are simply a read-only view of an external pin, so it simplifies hardware a tiny bit by forcing acks to go through the MMIO registers. > If my interpretation is incorrect then it would be really strange that > HART in S-mode SW can inject IPI to itself by writing 1 to SIP.SSIP bit. Well, it can be useful, for example Windows does it when interrupt handlers want to schedule some work to happen out of interrupt context. Going through SBI would be unpleasant if it causes an HS-mode trap. Paolo >> >> In fact I'm sure that if Windows were ever ported to RISC-V, it would be >> very happy to use that feature. On x86, Intel even accelerated it >> specifically for Microsoft. :) > > That would be indeed very strange usage. :) > > Regards, > Anup >
