On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Darrick J. Wong <darrick.wong@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 02:11:49PM -0700, Ross Zwisler wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 03:54:05PM +1000, Nicholas Piggin wrote: >> <> >> > Definitely the first step would be your simple preallocated per >> > inode approach until it is shown to be insufficient. >> >> Reviving this thread a few months later... >> >> Dave, we're interested in taking a serious look at what it would take to get >> PMEM_IMMUTABLE working. Do you still hold the opinion that this is (or could >> become, with some amount of work) a workable solution? >> >> We're happy to do the grunt work for this feature, but we will probably need >> guidance from someone with more XFS experience. With you out on extended leave >> the first half of 2017, who would be the best person to ask for this guidance? >> Darrick? > > Yes, probably. :) > > I think where we left off with this (on the XFS side) is some sort of > fallocate mode that would allocate blocks, zero them, and then set the > DAX and PMEM_IMMUTABLE on-disk inode flags. After that, you'd mmap the > file and thereby gain the ability to control write persistents behavior > without having to worry about fs metadata updates. As an added plus, I > think zeroing the pmem also clears media errors, or something like that. > > <shrug> Is that a reasonable starting point? My memory is a little foggy. > > Hmm, I see Dan just posted something about blockdev fallocate. I'll go > read that. That's for device-dax, which is basically a poor man's PMEM_IMMUTABLE via a character device interface. It's useful for cases where you want an entire nvdimm namespace/volume in "no fs-metadata to worry about" mode. But, for sub-allocations of a namespace and support for existing tooling, PMEM_IMMUTABLE is much more usable. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html