On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 12:19:15PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote: > On 6/11/14, 5:06 AM, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > >On Wednesday 11 June 2014 10:16:03 Paolo Bonzini wrote: > >> > >>>If kernels actually do use the UEFI runtime services and have no need > >>>for direct access to an RTC when runing in a UEFI compliant system, then > >>>I agree with not specifying the hardware details. > >> > >>The RTC is not needed for ordinary operation of the kernel and, in the > >>current kernel, the EFI RTC driver is only used for IA64. However, it > >>seems to be platform independent. I'll give it a shot (on x86, since > >>that's the only architecture for which I know how to get UEFI firmware). > > > >Using the EFI RTC seems appropriate for ARM, as it's a reasonable > >abstraction that should work with any hypervisor. I suspect the only > >reason we don't use it on x86 is that we know which RTC hardware we > >have and the kernel comes with a mandatory driver already. > > (sorry for delay in responding to this thread) > > Indeed. We should use the EFI RTC driver in general, rather than > push for many individual RTC drivers on aarch64 systems that are EFI > enabled. Within Red Hat, we currently have EFI Runtime Services live > in many of our labs and are using the EFI RTC. This is the way > forward. > Seems like we should stick a note in there about being UEFI compatible requires an RTC. We went this far before Peter raised the issue with noone else realizing it, so it seems like a good idea to me. -Christoffer -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html