On Mon, 2014-03-24 at 11:41 +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > Il 24/03/2014 10:03, Ian Campbell ha scritto: > >> > That isn't actually my position. I absolutely think that VMs /should/ > >> > implement persistent variables, but the variables are a property of a VM > >> > instance, not of the disk image. As far as this spec is concerned, I > >> > think portable disk images should operate under the assumption of an > >> > empty set of variables, and therefore follow the removable disk > >> > requirements in the UEFI spec. > > Just to be sure I understand. You position is: > > 1. A VM image downloaded from www.distro.org should neither contain > > nor expect any persistent variables to be present. I suppose for completeness I should have had 1a here: When a VM image is instantiated into a specific VM instance then it must not expect or require any persistent variables to be present. > > 2. After a VM image is instantiated into a specific VM instance and > > booted then it is at liberty to set persistent variables (either > > on first boot or as part of an upgrade) and the VM should ensure > > that those variables a retained over reboot for that specific > > instance. > > 3. If a VM does not preserve those variables then the instance > > should have some sane functional fallback (implied by the > > removable disk requirements from the UEFI spec). > > > > Is that right? I'm pretty sure you meant (1), reasonably sure you meant > > (2) and not at all sure you meant (3) ;-) > > At least I do. :) You did mean it, or you do think Grant meant it? ;-) Ian. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html