On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:49:14PM -0400, David Teigland wrote: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 09:40:39AM -0400, Don Zickus wrote: > > However, we still have the problem that if the machine panics and we want > > to jump into the kdump kernel, we need to 'kick' the watchdog one more > > time. This provides us a sane sync point for determining how long we have > > to load the watchdog driver in the second kernel before the hardware > > reboots us. Otherwise the reboots are pretty random and nothing is > > guaranteed. > > Some time ago I submitted this patch > http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-watchdog/msg01477.html > > to get rid of the one "extraneous" ping that was causing me trouble. > I'd still like to see merged, but haven't had time to follow up. > The use case makes sense to me, so it gets my Ack. Did Wim ever comment on it ? Thanks, Guenter > I have a use case where I need to guarantee that the watchdog > will *not* be pinged unless my userland daemon does the ping. > If my daemon is killed, the close() generates a ping that I > don't intend. This kdump ping looks like it would be another > instance that I'd need to suppress. Perhaps by renaming my flag > WDOG_NO_EXTRA_PING and checking it both in release and in > kick_for_kdump? > > (My daemon associates watchdog pings with shared storage heartbeats. > Based on the heartbeats, hosts in a cluster can calculate when an > unresponsive host last pinged its watchdog, and can be fairly > certain that the "dead" host has been reset by its watchdog 60 > seconds later. This is used as an alternative to i/o fencing > where we're protecting data on shared storage from corruption > after host failures. If there are uncontrolled watchdog pings, > then hosts don't know when a dead host might have last pinged > its watchdog, since it is no longer based on the last timestamp > it wrote to shared storage.) > > Dave >