As I've written before, my new installation has KDE 5.22. Previously, I've had earlier versions along with regular updates; all of them are now also at 5.22. But it appears as though an updated version does not work the same as a new installation of the same version. To me, that is unacceptable. For example, on my other systems, I have a keyboard shortcut to go to the next or previous virtual desktop. I can't find a way to set that on the new install. It does have CTRL-Fx to go to a specific desktop but that is not what I want. I love that KDE, and Linux generally, gives me lots of choices so I can make a system work the way I like. Unfortunately, it's a bit like spending hours on an airline flight trying to decide which of the hundreds of available movies to watch, then landing before the eventual selection finishes, or even starts. Finding how to set a desired option can take a lot of time, especially when the selection mechanism is "improved" so things aren't where experience says they should be. You know, Unix filesystems solved some of that with symbolic links. There's nothing wrong with having more than one way to change a setting, both the "old" way and an arguably better "new" way. I once was a strong proponent of Firefox but now I seek other browsers. I'm not unhappy with it's performance, it's that they make gratuitous changes that remove features. Once upon a time, I could change Firefox so that menus were shown in words, not pictures. Not any more. I learned to read but I never learned the meanings of all the silly pictures, different on nearly every system or application. Hovering is not an acceptable substitute when words can do the job directly. I do hope that the new "icons-only" task manager is not a portent of the future of KDE as that would mean I'd need to find another environment. Sorry for the rant. I didn't start out to write so much. All I really wanted was some way to configure a keyboard shortcut to select the next virtual desktop. -- Dave Close, Compata, Irvine CA +1 714 434 7359 dave@xxxxxxxxxxx dhclose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "A man who says, `I have learned enough and will learn no further,' should be considered as knowing nothing at all." --Haile Selassie