Hi René, René J.V. Bertin - 02.02.21, 22:32:02 CET: > Is it possible to install and run the Neon packages on Devuan (the one > provided for Devuan Beowulf are a bit old), or would that "infect"*) > the OS with systemd? […] > (*: "infect" because Devuan installs are not supposed to use systemd) Debian Sid and thus also Devuan Ceres has quite up-to-date Plasma (5.20.4), KDE Frameworks (5.78), KDE application (mostly 20.12, KDEPIM 20.08) and Qt packages (5.15.2) meanwhile – it is much better than say a year before. Those work without Systemd as PID 1 or installed. Using elogind it is even possible to get by without installing libsystemd – with the experimental package that does not exist even in Debian (libpam-elogind-compat): % dpkg -l | grep systemd [… no output …] I am using runit as PID 1 here. If KDE Neon packages would require Systemd, you can also use Norbert Preining's packages https://www.preining.info/blog/2020/12/debian-kde-status-for-bullseye/ He works on Plasma 5.21 packages meanwhile. I did not use them so far but use Debian Sid on this laptop and Devuan Ceres on another one and Devuan Bewolf on all of my servers. I'd expect they would work nicely. I have no idea about KDE Neon packages, they may work or not. Maybe someone else tried it. I have no interest in using Ubuntu. There may be some differences to Debian/Devuan that would make them unusable, but I doubt it. However no experience, so… use at your own risk. Regarding Debian on KDE I suggest subscribing to debian-kde mailing list (see https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/ ) Ciao, -- Martin