This discussion is not a constructive one. Draciron Smith pisze: > Akondi is a monster that drove me away from KDE. If you do not have the > latest greatest machine and multitask, Akondi will bring your machine to > it's knees, then flog it, then draw and quarter your memory resources, > grind your hard drive into dust, then chew up the remains. I had to switch > to Trinity to get back a usable machine. So I will strongly beg to differ > with your statement about Akondi being spoken of in any sort of positive > manner. > > First on principle. The integrated PIM is mostly obsolete. Phones today > have the CPU horsepower desktops had back when KDE 3 was embarked upon. A > phone is a natural place to do contact management. Getting ISPs to continue > support for POP3 & IMAP is like pulling teeth and when you do get support > you gat ONE email address. So realistically if you want to do old school > client server email you basically need a domain and a server where you > control your email or you live alone without children. A dedicated domain > and server is out of the cost range of most people. So webmail is really > the only option for most people. I have email lists of 100+ people and > might maybe have 1 or 2 people on those lists not using webmail. Those that > do not are using work accounts usually. > > So what value is there in apparently doubling the memory footprint of KDE > for something 90% of the folks do not even use? Doing so precludes using > older machines. Which is the bulk of Linux users and one of the great draws > of Linux. That is you don't have to go buy a new spiffy high end machine > every couple of years just to do what you were doing just fine on an older > machine. Akondi is increased resource demands with little to no value and > turns a high end machine into a single tasking device that doesn't even > match up to what your phone can do in those areas. I do not need 8 gigs of > RAM on a phone to manage contacts. 4 gigs is simply not enough for a > machine running Akondi. Not and actually multitask. > > KDE 4, I disable Akondi, 4 gigs of RAM on this machine. 2 gigs fo RAM on 2 > other machines running KDE 4 with Akondi disabled. Worked great. Ubuntu > 14.04 LTS goes out of support. I have to upgrade to 16.04 and KDE 5 and my > 2 Gig machines barely boot. My 4 Gig machine acts like I'm running WIn 95. > It's constantly freezing. Locking up so tight I can't even SSH in. I have > to power off at times to get it to come back after literally hours of just > churning. I put Trinity on those machines they work great again. Hell even > Gnome gave me better performance than KDE 5. I'm running 20.04 on one > machine using Trinity and all good. XFCE also runs rine as a desktop > manager. KDE has become the rich man's desktop as the poor cannot afford > the hardware to use KDE anymore. I've been using KDE for my desktop > manager since the 90s. I really like KDE, but it has become windoze like in > hardware demands and performance. There's a reason I dumped windoze in 2000 > and never looked back. KDE is now causing the same problems that caused me > to dump windoze 20 years ago. > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 6:16 AM Marek Kochanowicz <sirherrbatka@xxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > Yeah, i actually have manjaro on the other machine and kmail works there > > fine > > as well. So it seems for me that questionable packaging techniques are a > > factor here but I can't tell the precise details. > > > > As for the importance of the akonadi: it is actually a well designed piece > > of > > software architecture that simplifies all PIM apps drastically. Removing > > akonadi from PIM is not only (IMHO) pointless but also prohibitively > > expensive > > endeavor. Instead I would try to investigate what is the actual problem > > with > > the packaging and try to seek some kind of remedy for it.