On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:22:06 PM MDT Duncan wrote: > Jerome Yuzyk posted on Tue, 23 May 2017 23:53:05 -0600 as excerpted: > > [KDE 4.14.30 on Fedora 25] > > > > The darnedest thing: suddenly I can't move a window by grabbing the > > title bar. > > Neither full height windows nor dialogs. Others have reported this, but > > mostly in past releases. It seems I need to kill the kwin process and > > restart it with "kwin --replace". Failing that, logout and back in. I'd > > rather not do that. > > > > First off, I don't have a "kwin" process, though I do have a "kwin_x11" > > process. Secondly, is "kwin --replace" the right way to start kwin? > > Using the replace option is indeed the correct way, and yes, it's kwin_x11 > now, tho I had /thought/ that change was in plasma5 for kde-frameworks5, > not kde4, which would make sense given that the devs didn't really focus > on wayland porting and thus need the _x11 specifier suffix until 5. I'm > a gentooer not a fedora guy[1], so wouldn't know, but are you sure you're > not getting that 4.14.30 off of the legacy kdelibs4 that's still around > to support apps that haven't been ported to frameworks5 yet, and you're > actually running the plasma5 by kde desktop? Thanks. I'll have to file it away for next time. Since I had a large set of F25 updates I put off because there was a pile of KDE stuff I did the upgrade- reboot. I like long uptimes and that seems to trigger the bug with the latest- ish release that F25 provides. I'll find out in a couple months, maybe.