Hello! On Plasma 5.6/5.7 – 5.7 currently partially uploaded – (before pure 5.6), KF 5.23, and Qt 5.6.1 on Debian Sid on ThinkPad T520 with Sandybridge graphics and xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.99.917+git20160706-1, mesa 11.2.1 on libdrm 2.4.68 when using two sessions after switching from one session to another sometimes the session I switched to is stuck. Stuck means: No reaction whatsoever to mouse clicks or keyboard inputs. All windows are still shown just fine and there is no process at 100% cpu. The session seems just idle, just that it doesn´t respond to user input anymore. I didn´t take much care to debug this yet, as I have no exact idea how and I wanted the session back now. So what I did is killall -u affecteduser, but I noticed this didn´t clear all processes. ksmserver was still there and it only responded to a KILL signal. I didn´t find much in .xsession-errors that I can relate to that. Two things I noticed: org.kde.plasma: unversioned plugin detected, may result in instability But I think I have seen this for ages. Well, before creating yet another of these tons of freeze bug reports against plasmashell and kwin, without being able to provide much of helpful information… any idea how to make a useful bug report out of it, next time it happens? I found similar reports such as Bug 354126 - Plasma 5 Screen Freezes on a regular basis... https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354126 But I only see this when using two sessions … and then also Alt-F2 does not work anymore, also Alt-Shift-F12 to disable compositing produces no effect. I could try to produce a backtrace of ksmserver, kwin, plasmashell… enable all debugging in kdebugdialog and looking again in ~/.xsession-errors, also checking kernel log (did not find anything), but is there any more systematic and also time-efficient approach to this? I found some hints in the forum, but I think these are two general for my situation and… well trying with two clean users… it isn´t as if the problem reproduces everytime, so this would take a considerable amount of time. Such a randomly appearing "I just freeze the desktop, without telling you why, hahaha" kind of bug is something that I´d like to squash for good, but at the same time seems to be quite elusive. There are a gazillion layers in the stack where things can go wrong and I currently know now systematic approach on how to find which part exactly fails. Thanks, -- Martin ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.