Am Donnerstag, 21. März 2013, 20:47:12 schrieb dE .: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Ingo Malchow <imalchow@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 19. März 2013, 22:28:48 schrieb dE .: > > > This release of KDE (4.10.1), is till date the buggiest I've seen. > > > > > > I switched to KDE when it was at 4.4. > > > > > > I personally, don't really mind the bugs, it reminds me how ignorant KDE > > > release team is; KDE was, is and never will be suited for the enterprise > > > > if > > > > > it continues these 6 months feature focused release cycles. > > > > > > This mailing list is full of rants and complains and the KDE teams > > > doesnt > > > give a damn. > > > > This is a KDE user support list. By nature you won't find posts like "Hey, > > plasma is working, can you help me?"... > > But seriously, complaints are always the loudest. Personally i am running > > KDE > > *with* semantic desktop and kdepim, and it works very smooth. Note, this > > is > > personal experience in my own workflow and machine. This doesn't reflect > > any > > other situation. Do i ever write to such a list about my happyness with > > it? > > No. Happy users only rarely write something to mailinglists about thanking > > the > > devs. > > So even if this list is full of complaints, and - let's say - there are > > around > > 10 rants per month, nothing else, how does it compare to some million kde > > users worldwide? not at all. Hope you get the point. > > There ain't many bug related complaints about Xfce -- it's a lot more > stable. I personally hardly found any bugs while using it. > > > > Again -- > > > > > > We DON'T want features pouring@speed of light, we need STABILITY so KDE > > > > can > > > > > be _used_ by *common* people. > > > > > > Increase the release cycles to 2 years, or don't have ANY such time > > > limiting goals; i.e. wait for the new release to become stable enough, > > > > and > > > > > provide bug backports for the current stable release. > > > > > > Is Novel listening? I wonder how they manage with KDE. > > > > > > This mail is for sake of the project, not for MY personal frustrations > > > > with > > > > > KDE. I deploy Xfce anyway. > > > > It pretty much sounds like frustrations. You take your own unstable system > > for > > a global issue. Believe me, it is not. Neither do i say, as my system is > > highly stable every other system is as well. > > As you said you do report bugs, which is highly appreciated. But like with > > all > > bugs, they need to be reproducable, else they are hard to fix. The more > > useful > > information the better. > > I'd the same issue with Debian testing; also distros wont upgrade to the > latest 'stable' KDE; they usually wait for the last bug fix release, or > even skip a whole major release. > > Speaking of which KDE maybe an attractive option on Debian stable, cause > the bugs wont increment (with major versions) there. > > You're basically trying to say here, I shouldn't complaint; and this's > exactly why the project is in such a horrible state. The reason why I'm > complaining is cause I want the situation to improve -- so does everyone > else. I am quite fine with complaints, and yes, constructive criticism drives a project forward. Only that you shouldn't think that when you see bugs everyone else sees them as well, because... > > The moment you open upgraded the KDE desktop you see bugs. ... i did not see any showstopper bugs after upgrade. It just works. Ingo Malchow -- (neverendingo) KDE Community Working Group, KDE User Working Group KDE Community Forums Administrator New to KDE Software? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org or ask questions on http://forum.kde.org
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