Kevin Krammer posted on Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:44:45 +0200 as excerpted: >> Just a heads-up. KMail isn't the same old reasonably stable app that >> it used to be; that I used for nearing a decade. > > It still is. Using it every day, for business and private messaging. No disrespect intended as you've been helpful to me, but IMO for a normal user, that's a technical difference without a practical application. Think about it. Why would people use kmail if not for mail? If that mail is lost or there's complications with the local database storage thereof, it doesn't matter if it's kmail's fault, the backend's fault, or the fault of some malware holding it for ransom, to the user, it's lost mail, or otherwise unexpected mail behavior (mail or address resources unavailable, etc). With my own experience and frustrations fading, I'm trying hard not to be so negative about the whole thing. But I still believe it warrants an honest heads-up from someone who has been burned when the topic comes up, so people can keep their options open, just in case. Actually, I think the ideal approach would have been to introduce a "testing" kmail2 along with kmail1, keeping that official status thru kde4 to the kde5/frameworks bump. That would have allowed a rather longer stabilizing process for kmail2/akonadi, as people like me that enjoy testing things... as long as the status of what they're tested isn't misrepresented, would have very likely switched to and thus tested kmail2 and akonadi at some point, but could have dropped back to kmail1 if they found kmail2 wasn't working so well. Then with kde5/frameworks, kmail1 support could be dropped as a legacy kde4 technology, and people doing the 4/5 upgrade would expect some disruption such as format conversions, etc. Of course by then many would have already converted and be running the "testing" kmail2 anyway, thus wouldn't have had to deal with the mail/address/etc conversion at the 4/5 upgrade, as they'd have already done it. Unfortunately it's not happening that way. Which means it's all the more important to warn people about the possible problems with the newly akonadified kmail system, thus avoiding a /total/ repeat of the whole early kde4 fiasco. I know from experience what a beta is like, and that my problem tolerance level is better if I know it's a beta than if it's marketed as stable, so getting that warning out there can't but improve the situation and user experience. =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.