Re: Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

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KDE lover but not user posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 06:59:04 +0400 as
excerpted:

> Akonadi, strigi, virtuoso and nepomuk. There are more words of "this
> cool feature" then even about base apps.
> I only need Kwin, Dolphin and Kate. Why do I need face these warriors
> when i only need to read and write text? No more text? Only features?
> For whom?
> Forums are full of disabling, changing executable permission, deleting
> and words "Disaster".

FWIW, I run gentoo here, and as long as you're not using any kdepim apps 
(which due to deps, some at the kde and some at the gentoo level, 
requires akonadi, which in turn forces on gentoo's USE=semantic-desktop 
and with it, nepomuk, virtuoso, etc), it's possible to set USE=-semantic-
desktop and build without all that cpu and memory hogging junk.

Ironically, it was only after the kmail akonadification persuaded me to 
get off it (claws-mail now) and all kdepim apps entirely (akregator was 
the other one I used, again claws-mail now, with the feed plugin), 
allowing me to kill akonadi and then the whole semantic-desktop, that I 
really began to seriously appreciate and fully enjoy the rest of kde4, to 
the same extent that I had kde3.5.7+.  Ironic, because the semantic-
desktop stuff was one of the big headline features of kde4...

kde4 runs WAY faster with all that semantic-desktop stuff not only 
disabled, but entirely configured out at build-time.  Seriously, I had 
forgotten what a fast and responsive desktop was, and I rather felt like 
the MSWormOS users do after finding out how much resources either the 
viruses or their scan-on-use AV was using, and how much it was slowing 
down the system!  It was as if I upgraded by a half-gigahertz or got a 
couple extra cpu cores, just for killing that stuff!


But... as John MC-D said, there's a lot of other choices out there 
besides kde.  If kde's not doing it for you and you can't configure it to 
your liking so it does do it for you, definitely find something else, as 
I did with kmail when it akonadified, switching to the gtk-based claws-
mail.  Killing the semantic-desktop stuff (akonadi, nepomuk, virtuoso, 
etc) definitely dramatically improved the rest of the kde experience for 
me, but it's not something that just anyone will be able to do... not 
everyone runs gentoo and/or builds from source, and if you're running a 
binary-based distro, those choices are made for you by the folks that 
build it.

FWIW, there's still a build/link dependencies on strigi for kdelibs here, 
so it's still installed, but it's built without the clucene or 
hyperestraier options, and nepomuk, etc, is disabled (and not installed) 
via USE=-semantic-desktop, so it's pretty neutered as it has no backends 
to use.  It's providing the deps that kdelibs appears to need and that's 
about it.  And strigi itself, without its backends, is a pretty fast 
build, certainly so compared to kdelibs.


Meanwhile, kde5, aka kde frameworks, is planned to modularize things far 
more (thus the frameworks bit), and hopefully that'll allow even the 
users of binary distros that default to semantic-desktop support to 
entirely opt-out of installing it if they don't want/need it, without 
forcing a rebuild just to get at what is now build-time-only options, in 
many cases.

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman

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