Werner posted on Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:08:42 +0100 as excerpted: > What is differend when I start plasma with "stace" ? What can I do to > find out the problem ? When you run thru strace, the tracing apparently slows the system down enough so it works fine, strongly suggesting that the problem is a race condition or the like, where two programs or threads of the same program try to access the same resource at the same time. strace forces a slowdown and AFAIK some serialization of access, such that the problem disappears when using it. This sort of disappearing problem is common when trying to debug race conditions or bad-optimization issues, and can be quite difficult to work around. On Gentoo, a typical suggestion is to try compiling with standard/ generic optimizations (CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS at the standard "-march=native -O2 -pipe") if the user has tweaked their CFLAGS beyond that, or possibly something lower still (reducing the -march to -mtune so it's using generic instruction code, and/or to -O1), basically forcing the system to go slower by using less optimization, altho the latter is considered a temporary work-around or debug-only solution, with a bug filing strongly recommended, since that's definitely pessimistic optimizations compared to the normal state of affairs, and there's a definite bug to be traced and fixed if that's required. And bug filing is exactly what I'd recommend here, as you already seem to have tried the most obvious stuff, user config (.kde4), and the details of it working with amd64 but not x86 on the same repo are very intriguing. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.