Hello, because problems on kdenlive I moved in my 32bit system KDE4 from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Distro:/Factory/openSUSE_11.3/ back to http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/45/openSUSE_11.3/ using 'zypper dup' and 'zypper up'. Since this 'plasma-desktop' crashes when the PC starts and whenever I execute "plasma-desktop" (out messages below). But when I execute "strace plasma-desktop" it works fine. The PC is a dual boot system. The first OS is a 32Bit 11.3 opensuse and the second OS is a 64bit 11.3 opensuse. On the 64bit OS plasma-desktop works fine. On both systems I use now the same KDE4 repositories .../KDE:/Release:/45/openSUSE_11.3 On both systems I use the same user with the same ~/.kde4. Rename of ~/.kde4 does not helps and also removing .../socket-obelix/kdeinit4__0 have no impact. What is differend when I start plasma with "stace" ? What can I do to find out the problem ? Thanks for hints. Werner ____________________________________________________________ Output from "plasma-desktop": (werner obelix tcsh) [46] plasma-desktop QDBusObjectPath: invalid path "" QFont::setPointSize: Point size <= 0 (0), must be greater than 0 ERROR from solid predicate parser: syntax error ERROR from solid predicate parser: syntax error ERROR from solid predicate parser: syntax error link XMLID_34_ hasn't been detected! link XMLID_34_ hasn't been detected! link XMLID_36_ hasn't been detected! QFont::setPointSize: Point size <= 0 (0), must be greater than 0 QFont::setPointSize: Point size <= 0 (0), must be greater than 0 QFont::setPointSize: Point size <= 0 (0), must be greater than 0 QFont::setPointSize: Point size <= 0 (0), must be greater than 0 QWidget::setMinimumSize: (/Plasma::Dialog) Negative sizes (-1,-1) are not possible QWidget::setMinimumSize: (/Plasma::Dialog) Negative sizes (-1,-1) are not possible Couldn't find node center. Skipping rendering. KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/bin/plasma-desktop from kdeinit sock_file=/home/werner/.kde4/socket-obelix/kdeinit4__0 <unknown program name>(5693)/: Communication problem with "plasma-desktop" , it probably crashed. Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" : " "The name org.kde.plasma-desktop was not provided by any .service files" " (werner obelix tcsh) [47] KCrash: Application 'plasma-desktop' crashing... KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit sock_file=/home/werner/.kde4/socket-obelix/kdeinit4__0 ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.