More data: Just now when I tried switching the K menu from classic to kickoff (right click on K icon), I left open the console that was giving me screen output. Here's the screen output each time I attempt this: ==== begin screen output ==== QGraphicsLinearLayout::removeAt: invalid index 0 plasma-desktop(6334)/libplasma Plasma::FrameSvg::resizeFrame: Invalid size QSizeF(0, 0) ==== end screen output ==== Is this significant? Thanks. -dhave ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.