OK, this is still kde 4.4.5 here. Could folks on the 4.5 rcs check to see if it's still an issue there, before I look at filing a bug? In the desktop effects kcm (kcontrol module), all effects tab, in the Appearance section, there's two different effects, Explosion, and Fall Apart. From the names and descriptions (and seeing what the one does), they are both window-close effects. They should both dice the window into small pieces, with the difference between them being that in fall apart, from the name, I'd expect the pieces to collapse toward and off the bottom of the screen, while with explosion, I'd expect the pieces to explode in all different directions off the screen. The bug I'm seeing is that the fall apart effect explodes instead (mislabeled, should be explode, as the pieces do just that, explode in all directions), while the explode effect appears to do nothing at all. So is this what others see, and does it remain a problem with the 4.5 rcs and/or 4.5 branch and trunk heads? Also, for whatever reason, in the Accessibility section, the invert and sharpen effects won't apply, with a notification window saying that they couldn't be applied after I check them and hit apply. I'd have expected that with xrender/composite, but I had believed that with OpenGL, all effects should be available. Exactly what /do/ these effects require? Is there documentation about all these effects and what they require, somewhere on user/techbase? Help, as is so often the case, is so impossibly general and vague it's "nohelp".[1] Meanwhile, at least with 4.5, the notifier says what effects can't be applied. That's a substantial improvement from 4.2 (and IIRC 4.3, tho I don't know/remember exactly when it was fixed), where there wasn't any indication at all when an effect couldn't be applied, it simply appeared to do nothing (as the explode effect does now). ___ Footnote: [1] FWIW, back on MS Windows 98, before I upgraded to Linux as the only acceptable alternative to eXPrivacy, which I couldn't and wouldn't install as I don't and can't agree to having to beg MS' permission to run my own perfectly legal computer, thus making the only other choice a non- authorized install, luckily there was Linux as a better alternative and I've never looked back except to shudder at it... Back then, I used to run a tweaker app that allowed me to change the labels of various items in the Explorer shell, and I edited the help menu item label to "NoHelp", or actually, IIRC, simply "N", since I shortened everything on the first level menu to a single letter, because "NoHelp" is exactly what it tended to be. Unfortunately, there wasn't an option to remove that entry from the menu entirely. So certainly, the "help = nohelp" problem isn't limited to KDE or Linux by a long shot. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.