On Thursday 10 December 2009, Duncan wrote: > > So there is /indeed/ benefits to FLOSS for the ordinary user, and users > who choose to run nonfree programs are indeed submitting themselves to > the mastership of that software's lord and master, in a way unlike that > of running FLOSS, even if they can't write a single line of code, > themselves. Of course that is true, I doubt anyone (at leat any FLOSS user) will contest that. But there remains the fact that some, on the lists (and I mean all the lists I read that have to do with FLOSS) wipe away citicisms and/or suggestions or rants with this simple argument: the code is free and accessible, if the program does not do what you want, change it you self. No one contests this is _possible_ in theory, but to the average user it is not. I do code (a little, not very well) in basic or tcl/tk, long time ago in fortran, I can't even understand C or C++. The result that I depend almost as much from my "master" than a closed source user, however with the hope someone else might do it. To go back to the origin of this talk, obviously telling a normal user either to join the devs and code some functionalities himself, or to tell him that the KDE 3 code is free and he can continue developping it himself is just ridiculous. Supporting (and loving) an idea or a concept does not mean supporting it blidly and making it a sacred cow, so I understand most criticisms on this list as the expression of people who _do_ like and support KDE, but just happen to be unsatisfied with the way it's going. One can tell them that does not interrest him, but not that the code is free, because that does not help the leat a normal user in practice. regards, Thierry ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.