Rick Miles wrote: > On Thursday 19 November 2009 03:19:25 pm RW wrote: > >> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:11:20 -0600 >> >> Billie Erin Walsh <bilwalsh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Drac, don't take any of this personal. >>> >> I imagine he wont since personal isn't an adverb. >> >> >>> It's kind of a cumulative >>> assessment of what I, as a relative newbie, see on many lists and >>> threads. >>> >> Hmm, go on, I'm intrigued. >> >> >>> Most of the people I see grousing the most are those that have been >>> around the longest. They have gotten "set" in their ways. >>> >> I doubt that could be any more patronising without the use of >> "old-timer". >> >> >>> KDE4 is, >>> from my limited time with KDE3, a major change. Some things from >>> before work and many won't because of the fundamental change behind >>> them. >>> >> Does it not occur to you that long term users of KDE3 were best placed >> to understand KDE3's strengths and weaknesses. They're also more >> likely to be full-time KDE users. >> >> >>> Some things from >>> before work and many won't because of the fundamental change behind >>> them. As I understand it it's the foundation that KDE stands on that >>> made the change completely necessary. >>> >> Nonsense, very little was mandated by qt4. >> >> >>> I think the biggest problem is that no one wants change. >>> >> No, many of us wanted change, there's huge scope for improvement in >> KDE3, we just wanted change that enhanced productivity. I doubt many >> people sat around thinking: this is far too fast and useful, I want >> wobbly windows, cubes and enough bloat and poor ergonomics to slow me >> down to a more leisurely pace. >> ___________________________________________________ >> > Thanks RW, > > I'm over the adventure and excitment. I like the eyecandy and wobbles allot but I > want my work stations for work not testbeds. I was around at the transition from > qt2 to qt3. I don't remember much in the way of problems although the base kde was > much smaller, less complex, I was new to Linux and, consequently, evrything was a > problem. I probably came close to world records for Suse and Mandrake re-installs > until I gave up on yast, system V inits and learned to stop doing everything as > root, but I alway prefered kde, even back then and it always seemed to be puching > the envelope release by release. That's why I liked it and that's why I still do. > Maybe I just have less time these days to fiddle around configuring things > > Perhaps young Bill has plenty of time on his hands and finds the fun of upgarding > is in the reconfiguring and the more the merrier. > > I wasn't going to reply but............................... What do you mean by "wobbly windows" and "cubes". I don't have any wobbly anything, except me, and have no idea what a cube is. I have virtually no issues with upgrades. [ Almost never have any issues with clean installs either. ] This last upgrade was pretty much painless. I started the upgrade and went to bed. It took about ten or fifteen minutes the next morning to finalize it. No configuration issues at all. The only issue I had with the upgrade to 9.04 was sound and once I got into it the fix was relatively simple. Everything works and my poor old computer is just as fast as it ever was. Might even be faster. I don't keep much track of that sort of thing. I sit here every day and wonder why so many people have issues with stuff that just works. -- Treat all stressful situations like a dog does. If you can't eat it or play with it, just pee on it and walk away Sent with Thunderbird on my Kubuntu Linux Desktop ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.