On 18/10-2009 01:32 Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Thomas Olsen posted on Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:14:36 +0200 as excerpted: > > On 17/10-2009 14:38 Anne Wilson <cannewilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On Saturday 17 October 2009 11:36:57 Thomas Olsen wrote: > >> > I started out customizing it to act and look like KDE3 but now I have > >> > a heavily customized workplace which serves my needs. The strength > >> > and weakness of KDE. I prefer the strength! > >> > > >> > (and I know the developers are trying to limit the options of > >> > customization but users demand it - it's a sharp edge to walk on) > >> > >> The funny thing is that in the past the criticism was often that it had > >> just too many options - IOW was too configurable. My own feeling has > >> that KDE has always appealed to individualists, who want maximum > >> possibilities ;-) > > > > My sentiment too, but I haven't really much to compare with bc I've used > > KDE exclusively since about 3 months after Matthias Ettrich started the > > project :-) '96-'97? > > One of my feeds recently featured a "Two elephants" article, the thesis > of which was that significant new functionality is one "elephant", while > existing users are another, and the problem becomes one of trying to fit > them both in the same room at the same time, without forcing the old one > out in ordered to accommodate the new one. The author then proposed > three methods of trying to do this, including building a bigger room to > hold two elephants and trying to move them both in. KDE was the example > here, but the danger is that the original users won't like their new home > and will refuse to make the move, which is he said the problem KDE4 had, > that it's just now beginning to overcome. > > ... Unfortunately it seems Google hasn't picked up the piece yet (or my > googlefoo is bad today) as I don't find it, or I'd post the link. > > But this the configurability is definitely one of the elements of old kde > that the old "elephant" enjoyed, in part because unlike the biggest > alternative, gnome, kde wasn't apologetic about making things > configurable. As a result, those that wanted to keep things simple and > have the developers choose sufficient defaults so it "just worked" tended > to gravitate toward gnome or something else, while those who seldom found > defaults that met their needs and weren't shy about changing them, and > demanding that the knobs and levers be available TO change them, > gravitated toward kde. > > It's no secret, therefore, that most of the long-time kde users will NOT > be happy if they find configuration options disappearing on them, or even > if new features arrive without what they consider an appropriate level of > knobs and levers available to configure them. Should they get mad about > it, that elephant will simply pickup and leave... It's a nice analogy but I'm scared to be caught in the never ending discussion of pro/con configurability (think my spelling is wrong). I guess I'm an old elephant but I respect the decisions of the developers. They give me a lot of space for customizing and scripting and when I'm not satisfied with it I can go the C++ way :-) And sometimes I'm just lazy and want it to work out-of-the-box so an ambivalent elephant is probably the best description :-D -- Best Regards / Med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.