Dotan Cohen posted on Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:06:39 +0300 as excerpted: >> doesn't kwrite use the kate part. I liked kedit but it appears that is >> gone now. >> >> > At least the Kwrite interface is less busy than Kate's. That is what is > important to this user. He was a Kedit user in KDE 3. Heh, you could set him up with nano in a konsole window. Or get even /more/ spartan and teach him sed, no interactive UI at all! =:^) (FWIW, years ago now, back on Mandrake around the 2002 or 2003 time frame, I once had library loading issues and had to recover my system using sed, the only editor I could get to work! I hadn't had to use a line editor interface or similar as a primary editor since I was in high school back in the mid 80s! Luckily, I had a copy of Linux in a Nutshell beside me, and could rely on its appendix on sed, plus knowing the general idea from back in high school, for enough basics to do what needed to be done. Later I found out that Mandrake, which I was using at the time, had a statically linked vim-lite or some such, for just such recovery issues, but I didn't know it at the time. And while I /had/ learned a bit of vi from the book Running Linux (those two books jumpstarted my Linux adventure, BTW, **WELL** worth the $100 or so combined I spent on them, I updated my Linux in a Nutshell once already since then, and need to do it again), had I not had that, sed would have been less confusing than vi anyway. So yeah, I know what of I speak when I suggest sed as a standard file editor, as I've actually had to use it that way!) Well, you /said/ you wanted basic! Of course, you also said you wanted a KDE app. There used to be a kvim app, IIRC, tho I don't know if it's available for kde4. Maybe we need a ksed, which should fit the bill. Or maybe the fact that it's running in konsole is enough to qualify it as a KDE app? Of course, you could also use cat and echo redirection. That's about as basic as it gets these days, I suppose, as the tools to directly peak and poke individual bytes or even bits are pretty well gone, unless you go specialized programmer tools, of course. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.