On KDE 3.5, multi-key khotkeys are central to the way I work. Their absence in KDE 4 has been one of the blockers preventing my migration, and is one of the reasons kde4 remains "substantially broken" for my usage. My usage: My keyboard provides a number of extra keys, one of which I use as a "custom launcher" key. FWIW, it happens to be "XF86HomePage". So, XF86HomePage,c launches a console aka terminal window, XF86HomePage,w launches the web browser (konqueror), XF86HomePage,e launches an editor (kwrite), XF86HomePage,m launches the mailer (kmail), XF86HomePage,n launches the news client (pan, knode sucked when I tried it last, years ago, tho I may try it again with 4.x, btw, does klibido have a kde4 version and/or is one planned?), etc. Since RandR functionality did away with Alt-Ctrl-NumPlus/NumMinus zooming, I created xrandr scripts to handle that, and have them assigned to most of the XF86HomePage,F1-F12 actions. Similarly, XF86HomePage,End activates monitor suspend immediately (using an xset scriptlet), and XF86HomePage,Home is the "stay-on", deactivate the monitor sleep timers, function. To guard against its accidental activation, I have hibernate set to Ctr-Shift-XF86HomePage,End. (It'd be XF86HomePage,Ctrl-Shift-End if khotkeys 3.5 handled that, as earlier versions did IIRC, but it doesn't, so I had to put the Ctrl-Shift on the initial key and eliminate it from the popup menu that appears when just pushing XF86HomePage, unfortunately. I also miss the display of the menu item that used to be beside the shortcut, in older KDE 3 versions as well, but at least the general multi-key functionality still works with 3.5.x, unlike with 4.2 and it appears 4.3, and however many more revisions before they actually fix the regression and unbreak it.) Other keys may have only one action. The next one, XF86Mail, pops up the run dialog (and I've already assigned that to krunner in kde4). The one after that, XF86Search, pops up the kmenu. (Obviously, the key name matters little to me, it's the position I use, and the fact that it's an extra key, of course.) But XF86Standby is multi-key/multi-function loaded again, with the various window actions (shade/minimize/maximize/window-menu/etc). I'm getting more involved with KDE now and joined the kde and kde-linux lists. In reading the archives, I noted that the khotkey multi-key issue is a known bug. I just did a search on bugs.kde and came up with bug #161009: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161009 It says multikey global shortcuts don't work because "we can't support them - currently?." OK, but... KDE 3.5 does it. But KDE 3.5 is apparently going unsupported[1] and the regression is still there! So what's the upgrade path for folks dependent on that functionality? It's obviously not there now, but is it even penciled in on a roadmap somewhere, obviously somewhere other than that bug, with its popular vote confirmation? "Substantially broken" for my usage, indeed, and it appears I'm not the only one. Or must I now look for a third party solution, for something KDE was perfectly capable of providing as a part of a whole desktop solution on its own with 3.5? ..... [1] KDE 3.5 unsuported: At least Gentoo's kde guide says "KDE 3 is no longer maintained by upstream." But I'll be creating a separate thread on that as I've some questions on that too, and will provide a link to the quote there, so please save comments on that for the separate thread, unless it's to simply say it's mistaken, with a current KDE URL to that effect would be nice. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.