On Friday 25 May 2007, Hans van der Merwe <hvdmerwe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote about 'Re: smb://': > On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 05:06 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On Friday 25 May 2007 03:56:33 Hans van der Merwe wrote: > > > Anyone know if there are plans for kio_smb to accept MS version of > > > smb:// URIs. > > > ie "smb:\\server\share" or more accurately "\\server\share" > Ye, sure, MS makes up "standards" as they go along, but I dont see them > conforming anytime soon, so I think KDE must pickup the ball. I've heard a phrase tossed around my office a few times: "Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part." IMO, it's not KDEs role to take for for MS slack. That said, I do understand your point. Working well in a hetrogenous environment means working with 50+% (at least) the the /other/ systems. In most offices that means working well with MS. Patches Welcome! ;) > Anyway, I think the whole kio idea must be implemented on a much > "native" layer of the OS, not the windows manager. Now when I browse a > ODF or GIMP file on our network and double-click on it - GIMP and > OpenOffice just shouts at me - because they dont understand smb:// If you used karbon/krita and koffice they wouldn't have a problem with it. > The windows manager (being KDE, Gnome, etc) must request some "network > layer" (I think FUSE is something like this) to mount and provide a > temporary directory to that share, then anything that can access local > files will be able to access the network share. Konq will do part of this if you set up your file type associations properly. Using %f/%F instead of %u/%U causes Konq to copy the data to a temporary directory and open it from there. You don't get to write to the data though. (Well, I suppose you could, but it would simpyl write to the temporary directory.) I do wish URI-protocol handling was "pluggable" at the X/freedesktop (or DBus?) layer instead of at the KDE (and GNOME?) layer, it would make Free Software Desktops even more enjoyable than they are now. > > I don't, but I've been the only (or one of two) linux users in various > > Windows domains (of different sizes) for years now > > So what do you do when someone sends you link to server share? Tell them to put it on the internal wiki. [I've been the wiki-nista at two (at least) of my workplaces.] Or simply navigate there manually. I have bookmarks and/or cifs mount points set up for the most common locations. That said, it's never been my job to shuffle documents around, so 3 UNC paths a week is probably an all-time high *for me*. (I am reminded: "You are not your user.") > Copy-Paste-Replace? > This will not fly, even with willing computer users. Just as > copy-paste-uudecode is not the accepted way of viewing email attached > images anymore. Well, that's 'cause uuencoding and MIME, as well as PNG and JPEG are standards. Try viewing an embeded/attached xls worksheet in mutt/kmail/evolution. If MS wants to put together a standard that the rest of the world can agree on for (the equivalent of) UNC paths and follow it, then it'll get done. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss03@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/
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