Re: KNotify = Rediculous

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Hmm, maybe I wasnt clear enough?  The point I was making was that the sound center WORKED, but the system notifications did NOT.  If you go to the sound center in the KDE control panel, and clicked on Test, it would work.  But if you tried ANY System Notification sound, it would NOT work in the scenerio I mentioned.  This is an extremly common problem, and I am having a hard time believing that the KDE team just doesnt know about this.  I've never met a single person that has NOT had this problem.  Unless of coarse they come from a mailing list where there really arent all that many "regular joes".

John wrote:
Hi
Not sure what you are trying to do but my mail notification has worked for 
years. I turned others off as they irritated me. Only lost sound when I did a 
partial lib upgrade. Not a knotify problem. I had to enable the open sound 
system. No idea why.
I don't know much about the subject but the graphical way of setting it up is 
via KDE's control centre, sound and multimedia, system notifications. Many 
things can be done on a user basis by any user so root ownership etc makes no 
sense at all.
This suggests that all controls are kept on a user basis so the system might 
be writing what ever that is each time it runs.

Regards
John


On Tuesday 20 December 2005 19:00, Ryan wrote:
  
I have this problem with KNotify with ANY distro that I install with any
version of KDE.  KNotify ALWAYS DISABLES ITSELF.  It's really been
pissin me off the last few days because it's been turning my own
~/.kde/share/knotifyrc file off even when the sound system ISNT crashed
or down.  The only way to stop it is to chown the file to root, or
change the permisions to be read only, but that is WRONG I dont care who
says it's the "correct" way to fix it, it just plain shouldnt be turning
things false without at least ASKING you to let it change to false.
This has really been a nightmare for anyone that I've ever tried to get
to use Linux because every single day (it never fails, it always
happens), they call me and ask how to get sound running because it just
suddenly stopped working.  Every time it's always the KnotifyRC that is
the problem and I've just about had it myself.

My question, is there ANY possible way to stop this from happening other
than changing the permissions of the file.  Here's an example of what I
did to test it today on my own machine.

I woke up this mornin, starting messing with some stuff in Konsole and
noticed the damn beeps were off yet AGAIN.  So as usual, I opened the
knotifyrc file and changed:

[StartProgress]
Arts Init=false
KNotify Init=true
Use Arts=false

to

[StartProgress]
Arts Init=true
KNotify Init=true
Use Arts=true

I then tested the sound in Konsole, and sure enough, there was none.
So, what do I do?  Open knotify AGAIN and low and behold, its set to
false!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  So, I set it again thinking maybe I didnt
save the file.  Repeat, and whatya know, its False again!.  So this
time, I get pissed and chown it to root, use root to change the file,
test the sound again, and guess what happens.  I get this window from
KNotify saying that it cant write to the knotifyrc file.  So I say to
myself GOOD YOU LOUSY NO GOOD PIECE OF *****, you shouldnt be writting
to it!  Then, right after I close that window, I HEARD THE KONSOLE
SYSTEM NOTIFICATION SOUND!!  I'm like OMG
WTF$%^*@#*$%^&*^#$%%^#@!T$%&^T&^%&

Now, why in the world is Knotify turning its self off when I just proved
to it that that sound WAS on?  Is there a bug about this anywhere on the
KDE site?  Because if there isnt, there should be.  It's been like this
for me from version 3.0 to 3.5 and it's never once been fixed in KDE.
Is it just me and my clients, or does everyone else have this problem?
And DO NOT tell me that the fix for it is to just change the
permissions, that's the stupidest response ever.  If you do that, then
every time you login to KDE, you'll be greeted with an error window, and
when you are one of my clients, you dont like error windows because they
are scary.  There has to be an option somewhere where you can set it to
NOT write to the file at all, or at least tell you that its going to do
so and give you a chance to tell it that it's full of **** and doesnt
know what its doing, and give you the chance to skip the write process.

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